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I have a very early 1st gen 556, fishgill handguard, AR buffer tube stock, upper receiver has about 9 degree cant and the rail has 4 securing screws.

The next one I bought was almost identical except the upper receiver isn’t canted and it only has 3 securing screws in the top rail.

Next I bought a gen1 pistol with the swat rail and it’s been through many iterations of upgrade.

Somewhere in here I bought a 522 & 522P which I SBR’d then sold the carbine.

For a while I had a gen1 556R then sold it when I got the P556Xi-762, and SBR’d it.

Then I picked up a Swiss 552, Swiss 551 & Swiss 550, lastly en early 553.

Had I known all these new Swiss models were going to come out, I might not have bought anything before the 553’s … not that I have any regrets as the 556’s shoot fine & have good triggers, it’s just that none of the 556’s are as smooth as the Swiss guns.


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Anyone know what model this might be?

It appears to be a DMR model. Heavy barrel profile.

Also, I think it's worth mentioning, since the canted rails are the favorite talking point of the early 556 rifles, that the Swiss guns aren't safe from the canted phenomenon. I have a Swiss 553 with a canted top rail. I am sure it happens with less frequency in the Swiss guns, but it's definitely a thing.
 
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Yep, looks like a 556 DMR. Early DMR's had the fishgill and later had quad rails. Here's my 556 DMR...came with a Magpul PRS and I added the Nill-Griffe 550 Sniper style grip (took a lot of work to fit).



 
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I think youre right, it does seem to be a DMR version.
 
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Yep, looks like a 556 DMR. Early DMR's had the fishgill and later had quad rails. Here's my 556 DMR...came with a Magpul PRS and I added the Nill-Griffe 550 Sniper style grip (took a lot of work to fit).


THAT is a VERY Cool 556! Cool


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Did some quick digging on the 556DMR. I knew it existed, but this is the first I have encountered one. Seems there were a few versions of it. As someone already mentioned there was a version with fishgills and later version with the SWAT rail. Also seems like there were 20" and 18" barrel versions. Some seem to have come with a Magpul PRS stock, and others like the one local to me are a Magpul CTR stock with a cheek riser.

Seems like all versions came with a Harris bipod and a tuned trigger. I am tempted to pick it up at $1000 (its missing the bipod and doesnt come with a mag) but I really would like a more traditional 556 like the 556 Classic, the SWAT or the PAtrol versions. Wonder if theres any reason to pick up the DMR and see if anyone wants to trade.
 
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556 DMR's have 21" barrels and a 1:10 twist



There was also the 556 SCR (state compliant rifle). Could be an SCR that someone changed to a carbine buffer tube and Magpul stock (after all there's no function to the buffer tube other than to mount a stock).

 
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556 DMR's have 21" barrels and a 1:10 twist


Not all. Heres a link to TGS saying it has an 18" 1:8 barrel: https://www.topgunsupply.com/s...fle-.223-5.56mm.html
 
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Apparently also a 24" version back in 2008 according to the Wayback Machine.

I'd guess the TGS link is the likely version posted...same stock setup and muzzle isn't smooth
 
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Speaking of 556 generations, there is a last gen (xi) on GB for a good deal right now that I need somebody to pick up before I make another bad decision.


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The ultimate Sig 55X evolution?...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnevku6vJrQ
I always thought it was interesting that they so obviously opted to borrow from the 55X, for this rifle.
 
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The ultimate Sig 55X evolution?...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnevku6vJrQ
I always thought it was interesting that they so obviously opted to borrow from the 55X, for this rifle.



That is the ultimate 552 evolution. KAC used a 552 bolt group and gas system mated to a lower that had AR ergonomics and used a Stoner 63 continuous curve magazine. Heavenly. Too bad it never saw production.


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So, a funny thing, regarding the canted top rails on early guns: I had never noticed it before, but they apparently tried to counter the cant by milling the underside of the rail at an angle. I can't say that it happened on all, or even most, but the underside of the rail on one I was just handling is definitely NOT square, and it happens to be done in the way that would favor straightness, when paired with this particular receiver.
 
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I always wondered if the earliest guns with Swiss internals were 922 compliant. I assume the plastic furniture is made in Israel like the cheap mags they had back then.
 
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components can be brought it and assembled in the US and then they're not foreign parts.
 
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Anyone ever heard of a factory FDE Sig556? Found one for sale online, the guy says its a distributor exclusive version. Older style with the AR side folding stock and the tiny flip up front site as well as the screws instead of takedown pins.
 
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I just picked up a "used" 556 classic yesterday that is in excellent condition ( does not have a scratch on it) that was an estate sale. Very happy to have found one.
 
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Anyone ever heard of a factory FDE Sig556? Found one for sale online, the guy says it’s a distributor exclusive version. Older style with the AR side folding stock and the tiny flip up front site as well as the screws instead of takedown pins.


Yes, it was a swat model with the long quad rail, right?


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the one on GB is overpriced. Last FDE one that sold went for like $1xxx something. Unless you place a premium on "unfired" that generation isn't worth more than the later ones
 
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the one on GB is overpriced. Last FDE one that sold went for like $1xxx something. Unless you place a premium on "unfired" that generation isn't worth more than the later ones


Agree. I wouldn’t pay four figures for any non-xi model right now. heck, an xi pistol went for something like $852 a few weeks ago. Ignore the high asking prices and wait for the penny, no reserve auctions to pop up.


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