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Identify an old 22 rifle for a neighbor

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August 01, 2024, 05:51 PM
hudr
Identify an old 22 rifle for a neighbor
Trying to ID and old 22lr rifle.
Bolt action.
Mauser Werke A-G Onerndorf A.N. On the receiver.
Receiver seems to be grooved for one of the clamp style scopes. It has elevation adjustable rear sight.

By my measurements (cleaning rod down barrel against a closed bolt) the barrel is 25 1/2 inches.
Pistol grip is checkered, forearm is grooved. Stock is all one piece, not a separate stock and forearm.
5 shot removable magazine.
August 01, 2024, 06:24 PM
Mars_Attacks
He has a grail piece.


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August 01, 2024, 08:09 PM
hrcjon
quote:
Mauser Werke A-G Onerndorf A.N.

I just did a search using that and see lots of different versions with pictures that you might be able to compare to the actual gun.


“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
August 01, 2024, 09:20 PM
hudr
quote:
Originally posted by hrcjon:
quote:
Mauser Werke A-G Onerndorf A.N.

I just did a search using that and see lots of different versions with pictures that you might be able to compare to the actual gun.


I’ve been all over the ‘net. It doesn’t fully fit any one of the several different models. And the different models are over the place n value.
I’m considering contacting Mauser to see if they trace the serial number.
August 01, 2024, 09:23 PM
lyman
pics by chance?



https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/
August 01, 2024, 10:12 PM
hudr
I don’t have a hosted website anymore, and I haven’t chosen a photo hosting service, but I can email pics to whomever is interested.
August 02, 2024, 08:18 AM
egregore
The 25" barrel suggests an interwar period (between the First and Second World Wars) military training rifle.
August 02, 2024, 10:51 AM
hudr
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
The 25" barrel suggests an interwar period (between the First and Second World Wars) military training rifle.


That’s the story on this. It was “brought back” by his wife’s dad or uncle. This neighbor is pushing 80, so a WWII trophy is t out of the question.
I even found an old ad online and got a friend of mine to translate it. The ad was actually Swiss, but it still didn’t help narrow down the actual model.
August 02, 2024, 11:34 AM
shkuhn
Are there any stamps on the bottom of the barrel in front of the fore end? I was looking at a single shot 22 Mauser and that’s how I ended up being able to identify it.
August 02, 2024, 08:00 PM
egregore
If you can't find a match on an internet search, it could have had the stock altered or replaced ("sporterized") at some point in the last 100 years.
August 02, 2024, 09:07 PM
hudr
shkuhn:

No stamps past the fore end. I haven’t taken it apart because it isn’t mine. Might have to do so, in order to really inspect it.

egregore:
I don’t think it has been modified in any way. Nothing looks modified on it.

I took a few pics of it just now.
But…I have been in the hay field from just before lunch to right now(about 9pm).
And I have more hay stuff to do tomorrow as soon as the few burns off. In other words, I’m beat. I’m gonna crawl through the shower and hit the sack. Maybe I can email out some pics tomorrow AM.
August 05, 2024, 05:12 PM
hudr
I have some pics of the rifle if anyone is interested.
Thx
August 05, 2024, 06:30 PM
RogueJSK
Shoot me an email with the pics. I'll take a look.
August 05, 2024, 07:26 PM
hudr
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Shoot me an email with the pics. I'll take a look.


Email inbound. Thank you
August 05, 2024, 07:39 PM
RogueJSK
What you have there is a Mauser MS420. Produced from the mid-1920s through the mid-1930s, yours has some of the later features like a rotating safety and a receiver grooved for a scope mount, but still retains the early style magazine and trigger guard. So I'd put it around 1930ish. Middle to late-middle production.

Somewhat uncommon, but not super valuable. It's good that it has the original magazine, as those are even rarer than the rifles.

It also appears to be in very good condition, with extremely crisp markings on both the receiver and stock. Many of these are in rougher condition and/or have had their stocks sanded down over the years.
August 05, 2024, 07:52 PM
hudr
Thank you for taking the time to look at it.
I’ll pass this on to my neighbor.
August 05, 2024, 08:02 PM
RogueJSK
My pleasure.

For those interested, here are a couple of the photos hudr sent over:




August 06, 2024, 10:18 AM
Jim Watson
I have the corresponding Walther .22 bolt action. These are FINE little rifles.