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May 08, 2017, 09:11 PM
creslin
Old Shotgun (warning: large pics!)
A coworker acquired an old ass 12 gauge shotgun.
He has no idea what it is as there aren't really any legible markings on it.

Anyone have a clue what this thing is?












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May 08, 2017, 09:17 PM
creslin
Even larger pics can be found here if desired





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May 08, 2017, 09:26 PM
parabellum
It's an Iver Johnson shotgun made around the end of the 19th Century. The trigger guard is missing.


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May 08, 2017, 09:31 PM
creslin
any idea what the lever thing is on the right side?





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May 08, 2017, 09:35 PM
parabellum
No. The ones I've seen didn't have that feature. The ring in front of the trigger opens the action. I don't know what the latch on the right side of the receiver is for. Maybe it's a takedown.

This is a black powder firearm, no longer safe for firing.


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May 08, 2017, 09:52 PM
Bisleyblackhawk
I'm wondering if the lever like thing is not something that was used to replace a lost pin...here is a pic from the internet that doesn't show it...can the pin be pushed flush?...neat old gun Smile




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May 08, 2017, 09:54 PM
parabellum
Yes, considering the obvious extensive use that shotgun has seen, I wouldn't be surprised to find out it's an convenient solution for a broken pin.


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May 08, 2017, 09:58 PM
creslin
that's interesting - and kinda hilarious.

It does make sense that some dude lost/busted the pin there and just grabbed whatever he had handy and stuck it in there.





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May 09, 2017, 08:35 AM
creslin
thanks for the info folks!





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May 09, 2017, 08:51 AM
RogueJSK
I'm not so sure that it's some sort of ersatz replacement pin.

Here's an old ad for this shotgun. Note the lever on the side of the shotgun (although it's on the opposite side).

Also, from the photos in the OP, it looks like the lever lines up with a notch cut in the side of the receiver.


May 09, 2017, 08:55 AM
RogueJSK
Here are some photos of another example of this style of shotgun, with a lever in the same position. However, the lever is on the opposite side from the OP's, and is a slightly different style.

My guess is that's it's a takedown mechanism, since that appears to be the connection point between the barrel and the receiver. I'd guess that when the lever is rotated to a certain point, the pin is then able to slide out and release the barrel from the receiver.




May 09, 2017, 08:58 AM
flesheatingvirus
Looks like a neat wall hanger.


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May 09, 2017, 09:32 AM
creslin
$7.25 - I wish guns were still that price....





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May 09, 2017, 09:39 AM
striker1
quote:
Originally posted by creslin:
any idea what the lever thing is on the right side?


Pre-Champion takedown lever. The wheel fits in the recess cut into the receiver.

Numrich might have the trigger guard.



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May 09, 2017, 09:49 AM
cslinger
They are still that price. That single shot would cost about 200-250 in today's money. Heck I could probably rustle up a passable pump gun in that neighborhood. Smile


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May 09, 2017, 09:55 AM
YellowJacket
quote:
Originally posted by creslin:
$7.25 - I wish guns were still that price....

this gun probably still is that price



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May 09, 2017, 11:06 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by creslin:
$7.25 - I wish guns were still that price....


Adjusted for inflation, $7.25 in 1900 dollars would be around $199 in 2017 dollars.

That's about the going rate for a new single-shot shotgun today.