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An interesting new roller delayed blowback 9mm coming: Springfield Kuna.

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February 27, 2025, 11:50 AM
KSGM
An interesting new roller delayed blowback 9mm coming: Springfield Kuna.
Hahaha. I actually like the aesthetic of the Taurus better.
February 27, 2025, 12:23 PM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by KSGM:
Hahaha. I actually like the aesthetic of the Taurus better.


Honestly, me too. The Kuna is kinda ugly, especially the blatant ripoff of the Scorpion stock, which I think is ugly as sin. One of the things I like about guns like the ACR, SCAR, Stribog, et al. is their embracing the square receiver/handguard extension aesthetic. Just straight utilitarian, no unneeded curves and angles. The Kuna designers seemed like they wanted to add a bunch of lines to pretty it up and wound up taking it in the other direction a bit.

Anyways, in the spirit of utilitarianism, I won't let that stuff bother me. If it makes it to market and proves to be a solid performer, I'll put function over form.

As for the chambering, I happen to have a whole lot of .40 that I inherited. Range ammo, Remington DOJ contract duty loads, and even simunition. Cases and cases of it. A whole Rubbermain chest full. I was kicking around ideas for a .40S&W PCC with some friends a few months ago just because, and started going through the whole thought exercise again. The Kuna starts where I wound up with on the Stribog.


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February 27, 2025, 12:26 PM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by KSGM:
Hahaha. I actually like the aesthetic of the Taurus better.


Honestly, me too. The Kuna is kinda ugly, especially the blatant ripoff of the Scorpion stock, which I think is ugly as sin. One of the things I like about guns like the ACR, SCAR, Stribog, et al. is their embracing the square receiver/handguard extension aesthetic. Just straight utilitarian, no unneeded curves and angles. The Kuna designers seemed like they wanted to add a bunch of lines to pretty it up and wound up taking it in the other direction a bit.

Anyways, in the spirit of utilitarianism, I won't let that stuff bother me. If it makes it to market and proves to be a solid performer, I'll put function over form.

As for the chambering, I happen to have a whole lot of .40 that I inherited. Range ammo, Remington DOJ contract duty loads, and even simunition. Cases and cases of it. A whole Rubbermaid tote full. I was kicking around ideas for a .40S&W PCC with some friends a few months ago just because, and started going through the whole thought exercise again. The Kuna starts where I wound up with on the Stribog. Obviously, a .45 cal can would have to happen.... Wink Big Grin



quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:
I will likely be in on this! I will be in for 2 if the 10mm becomes a reality.


You've seen this, right? Roller delayed, takes UMP mags.

https://palmettostatearmory.co...ce-197892004848.html


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February 27, 2025, 01:01 PM
Black92LX
I did not realize they were making a 10mm. I paid a little attention to the Stribog many years ago when it was first released many years ago.
Seemed like folks were having a lot of issues and I quit paying attention.

Mags look to be $40 or so. I like the $25 mag price for the Springfield.
Also would not mind owning a gun made in Croatia as I have been there.

Guess I’ll have to do some more reading on the Stribog.


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February 27, 2025, 02:46 PM
Dwill104
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:
I did not realize they were making a 10mm. I paid a little attention to the Stribog many years ago when it was first released many years ago.
Seemed like folks were having a lot of issues and I quit paying attention.

Mags look to be $40 or so. I like the $25 mag price for the Springfield.
Also would not mind owning a gun made in Croatia as I have been there.

Guess I’ll have to do some more reading on the Stribog.


Mags for the 10mm Stribog are not $40, unless maybe the Grand Power ones. Yes, the SP10A3 (and SP45A3) takes UMP mags, but HK never made them in 10mm because they never made a factory UMP in 10mm. The only 10mm UMP mags are converted .45 mags that were made for an aftermarket UMP conversion and run like $140 each.

The mag situation is one of the reasons why I went with the .45 Stribog, but went with a CMMG MK10 for my 10mm PPC.
February 27, 2025, 03:15 PM
P250UA5
I'd maybe give the Taurus a shot, if the price is a significant savings & it plays well with a suppressor.
I do think the Kuna looks better overall.




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February 27, 2025, 10:19 PM
P220 Smudge
HA! I may just be onto something, here.



I've heard about this thing being in the works for a while now. If it looks like a Scorpion Evo 3, well, that's because Lucanski is the guy who designed the Scorpion Evo 3.


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March 05, 2025, 09:42 AM
flesheatingvirus
^^^ That was one of the COOLEST new PCCs I've seen. What a sweet blend of features from other designs. I want to get my hands on one of these.


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March 05, 2025, 12:45 PM
P250UA5
Cool to have some options out there that aren't MP5 priced...
The Lucansky & Springfield will definitely get a look by me once they start arriving on shelves, maybe the Taurs could tempt me if it's a significant price difference, to dip my toe in the PCC market.




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March 05, 2025, 02:28 PM
92fstech
That is pretty cool. Definitely simpler than a roller system. And if they can really deliver for under $1000 that would be awesome. I'll be keeping an eye on these.