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| Be not wise in thine own eyes  |
Building my first AR with a Spikes Crusader stripped lower. Do you prefer to stake or blue Loctite the buffer tube to the lower receiver? I have read that you torque it to 40 ft lbs. That seems like a lot. How tight do you go with the castle nut? “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | ||
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I haven't staked, nor have I used loctite. I'm probably wrong for not doing one or the other. Both ARs I've built, I've never had the castle nut come loose. One had a little over 1k rounds through it, this most recent one doesn't have that many, and neither were 'worked' or taken through a carbine class, which I suspect if it was going to happen it'd happen during something like that. If I had the tools and knowledge, I'd stake it. ________________________ | |||
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The Persian |
If it is anything but a few rounds every once in a while gun, stake it. IME blue Loctite isn't enough to hold it in place. ------- A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens, and you go faster. Mr. Doom and Gloom "King in the north!" "Slow is smooth... and also slow. | |||
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Stake. I ground the end of a cold chisel to produce a nice rectangular Colt-like stake. | |||
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Glorious SPAM! |
I coat with the correct grease, torque and stake as per the TM. I'm not in the habit of swapping buffer tubes but if I ever had to it's easy to remove and castle nuts and end plates are cheap. | |||
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| That rug really tied the room together.  |
I always stake. And new endplates are $2 if you ever need to remove the buffer tube for some reason. Loctite is an improper install. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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| Be not wise in thine own eyes |
Thanks, I was leaning toward staking. Just ran across this guide which explains the danger of not staking. How to stake your castle nut in 3 easy steps. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Old Air Cavalryman |
Stake. Always stake it. "Also I heard the voice of the Lord saying who shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I, send me." | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Stake. I use a cheap spring-loaded center punch from Harbor Freight. | |||
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For real? |
I'm a cheap bastard. I'll use a regular punch to stake. Haven't scratched any rifles yet. Not minority enough! | |||
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Security Sage |
Grease on the threads of the tube, hand tighten the nut, snug it down *firmly* and stake with a spring loaded center punch. I usually punch about 30x on each stake point or until I feel enough of the metal on the endplate is displaced into the notches in the castle nut. Mine look like this:  RB Cancer fighter (Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma) since 2009, now fighting Diffuse Large B-Cell Lymphoma. | |||
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| Security Sage |
 RB Cancer fighter (Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma) since 2009, now fighting Diffuse Large B-Cell Lymphoma. | |||
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"Member" |
I loctite'd a few, way back. I don't bother any more. Never stake. I suppose if I were building rifles for other stupid people whom I didn't want taking the rifle apart, I would. But I'm not, so I don't. _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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| The Persian |
It isn't about stupid people taking the rifles apart. Staking is done to prevent the rifle from taking itself apart. It is the same reason that the carrier keys are staked. ------- A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens, and you go faster. Mr. Doom and Gloom "King in the north!" "Slow is smooth... and also slow. | |||
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I stake because that's in the TM. But there is a threadlocker product (not 242 as was asked and I'm too lazy to look up what's needed for this torque and thread) that would accomplish this just as well. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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Green Mountain Boy |
Stake is the proper way to do it. Just because your particular gun hasn't fallen apart doesn't mean it's right. !~God Bless the U.S. Military~! If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off Light travels faster than sound, this is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
Stake it. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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I've never staked or used Blue Loctite since my first build in the early 90's and never had one come loose. I do stake carrier keys. | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Stake, stake, and stake. It's not hard to do.
Spot on. | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
https://thearmsguide.com/5135/...nut-in-3-easy-steps/ https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-...=spring+loaded+punch Punch costs $5.49 delivered and it takes all of 5 minutes to do. | |||
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