Only one rifle…….what optic?

July 19, 2022, 05:04 PM

Jester814

If combos count, I'd do a red dot with a flip up. For that budget probably an aimpoint, and I don't know what flip up, I haven't noticed a difference in the 3xs I've used. Vortex maybe?

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July 19, 2022, 08:24 PM

pepsiblue

quote:
Originally posted by GrumpyBiker:
Grand Thumb's discussion on the topic.

https://youtu.be/LHgmsq6dSlE

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July 20, 2022, 05:25 PM

RichardC

[QUOTE]Originally posted by GrumpyBiker:
Grand Thumb's discussion on the topic.

From the comments:

Philip Farley
2 years ago
If you're being over run by the enemy you can simply turn your magnifier backwards. It will make them further away putting you out of range and allowing more time to prepare.

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August 14, 2022, 07:47 PM

Pete Sheppard

quote:
Originally posted by ARman:
quote:
Originally posted by usncorpsman:
Give the Primary Arms Micro Prism 3x a try. It is 95% of the ACOG at about 1/3 the price. ”.

I just got one and I'm loving it so far. I hot the 5.56 version, and after messing around with it, I may be getting one for my .300aac
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Another vote for the PA 3x microprism! Rob Ski swears by them; in fact, he has an AK sight/mount combo for sale in the AKOU store!
Hopefully, others are still testing them and will post reviews soon.

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August 14, 2022, 08:57 PM

joatmonv

I took my 3x prism off and replaced it with a Aimpoint Comp M4S and I'm happy.
Its not that the 3x prism was bad but the eye relief was a killer. If you didn't get the correct cheek weld when bringing the rifle up, you had to move around to get a clear field of view. I know it's a matter of training but the Aimpoint is just point and shoot.
YMMV

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August 14, 2022, 09:05 PM

RogueJSK

What brand and model of 3x prismatic were you using, joatmonv?

Some prismatics have fairly generous eyeboxes (3-4+ inches), while others are quite restrictive (less than 1.5 inches). What doesn't seem like much of a difference on paper can make a big difference in actual usability. I've also found that some magnified optics with a certain advertised eye relief are actually usable at several inches further out than listed, but not all.

However, unmagnified reflex sights like red dots will always work better when it comes to less than perfect eye alignment, thanks to their unlimited eye relief. But that comes at the cost of zero magnification.

Optics are all about pros and cons. For some setups and some users, the pros of a 3x prismatic outweigh the cons, but not for all.

August 14, 2022, 09:14 PM

doublecorona

Europtics has the Vortex Razor Gen II at $1,000. https://www.eurooptic.com/vort...6x24-riflescope.aspx

And the EOTech Vudu 1-6 demo for under $1,000. https://www.eurooptic.com/EOTe...ope-VDU1-6FFSR1.aspx

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August 15, 2022, 06:16 AM

joatmonv

quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
What brand and model of 3x prismatic were you using, joatmonv?

Vortex Spitfire HD Gen2. It's not a bad prism at all and has its merits for sure. Off a bench, I was hitting steel with it at a bit over 300 yards.
Faster target acquisition, not so good.

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August 15, 2022, 09:06 AM

kimberkid

quote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
Check out the reticles. Red donut at 1X, MILrad at 6X.
Also, its heavy.

You can bet it will sink to lake bottom 'scope down when your canoe flips over.

https://www.swfa.com/swfa-ss-h...30mm-riflescope.html

SWFA SS HD 1-6x24 Tactical 30mm Riflescope Details
Matte Black Finish
First Focal Plane Illuminated Donut (Circle/Mil-Scale)
30mm Tube
.10 Mrad, 10 Mils per Rev.
HD Model
Undercover Turrets

The SWFA Sample List has one for $779
I’ve have a couple of their SS scopes for 10+ years. The glass is okay, adjustments are positive & repeatable. Their a decent budget option.
The Sample List is their retired demo’s and all carry factory warranty.

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August 15, 2022, 10:53 AM

Ryanp225

quote:
Originally posted by Pete Sheppard:
Video of Rob's review of the PA 3x microprism https://youtu.be/haBCNYqUOgE

They also have the same microprism in a 1X which is a great reflex sight for those of us with astigmatism or corrective lenses that tend to "smear" a red dot.

August 16, 2022, 12:58 AM

pepsiblue

Thanks for checking back!

I have not….. still looking and comparing.I currently have a Razor 1x6 on a Scar 17. I like the scope, other than it’s heavy. I’d also like to bump up to 8x or 10x. My “one rifle” is a 16” MCX with the full length rail, so it’s already a little heavy to start with. In the $1000 price range, I’ve been looking at the offerings from Trijcon and Eotech. Getting a new one is a little over budget, but not much. Picking up a used one is definitely possible. No such luck on a Nightforce. So, I’m still looking and comparing, and saving money, lol…

August 16, 2022, 06:34 AM

Anubismp

Honestly, a dot or 1x prism with a dot will do most things but if you wanted an all-purpose rifle then I would go with a 1-6/8. If you plan on getting older then having magnification on tap helps.

August 16, 2022, 10:33 AM

pepsiblue

quote:
Originally posted by Anubismp:
Honestly, a dot or 1x prism with a dot will do most things but if you wanted an all-purpose rifle then I would go with a 1-6/8. If you plan on getting older then having magnification on tap helps.

I have a couple rifles with Aimpoints, and I really enjoy them. I’m already old, and hoping that I get older, lol, which I’d a factor in wanting the magnification. I think it’s a must for “positive identification “, and it’s a huge bonus for target or pest control at distance.

August 16, 2022, 06:18 PM

powermad

The Atibal 1-10x30 looks like a decent scope for the money.
10" long and 21 oz isn't to bad.
https://atibal-optics.com/prod...atibal-x-1-10x35-ffp

August 21, 2022, 03:09 PM

IndianaBoy

I'd have to buy used to keep it under $1k.

Vortex Razor with the JM1 BDC reticle in a Larue SPR-E mount.

I bought a used Razor for $850 a while back and the Larue mount was $225.

Great glass. Durable. Great tracking. Excellent illumination.