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Ruger No. 1?

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November 15, 2017, 01:05 PM
mlazarus
Ruger No. 1?
I have one in 30-06. It's actually accurate enough at about 1 MOA. I've used it for a variety of animals. It's a classy rifle.


Ignem Feram
November 15, 2017, 06:03 PM
honestlou
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
quote:
Originally posted by honestlou:
Now to decide on a scope. I'm thinking minimalist, like maybe a fixed 4 power. Most likely this will be used for deer, with a maximum of a 300 yard shot.


Since I have five of these, I have a variety of scopes on them. By far my favorite is a Leupold VX3i 2-7x33 . The Leupold has great lines, and the smaller scope interferes less with the loading ramp.
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I see the VX2 in the 2-7, but not the VX3, which the closest I can find is a 2.5-8X36. That seems like a pretty good fit, but I'm wondering what your opinion is of the VX3 vs the VX2.
November 15, 2017, 06:35 PM
RivahRat
A Leupold 1x5 or 1x6 short tube is ideal on the 1A 7x57mm I have.

The 7mm-08 is a great cartridge. Nice pick.
November 15, 2017, 09:02 PM
sigcrazy7
quote:
Originally posted by honestlou:
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
quote:
Originally posted by honestlou:
Now to decide on a scope. I'm thinking minimalist, like maybe a fixed 4 power. Most likely this will be used for deer, with a maximum of a 300 yard shot.


Since I have five of these, I have a variety of scopes on them. By far my favorite is a Leupold VX3i 2-7x33 . The Leupold has great lines, and the smaller scope interferes less with the loading ramp.
...


I see the VX2 in the 2-7, but not the VX3, which the closest I can find is a 2.5-8X36. That seems like a pretty good fit, but I'm wondering what your opinion is of the VX3 vs the VX2.


That's the one, 2.5-8. I always forget how Leupold has magnification a little different between the VX2 and 3. The new VX2 is a great scope. It's the same scope as the VXIII of ten years ago or
so. The VX3i has some newer tech like blackening around the sight picture and double springs on the erector.

I mostly buy in the VX3 range, and don't own any VX2s, except one that came on a used rifle (VXII). I think it's older and doesn't compare directly with a new VX2. Having said that, it's a fine scope and holds zero on a 338 Win Mag.



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November 15, 2017, 09:08 PM
sigcrazy7
I'll be home next week. If this thread is still alive, I'll post some pics of my No.1s with the different scopes so you can see the difference.



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November 15, 2017, 11:35 PM
honestlou
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
I'll be home next week. If this thread is still alive, I'll post some pics of my No.1s with the different scopes so you can see the difference.


I'd appreciate that. I'd also like to know if you've had any issues with eye relief as I've read about.
November 16, 2017, 12:11 AM
sigcrazy7
quote:
Originally posted by honestlou:
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
I'll be home next week. If this thread is still alive, I'll post some pics of my No.1s with the different scopes so you can see the difference.


I'd appreciate that. I'd also like to know if you've had any issues with eye relief as I've read about.


That's one of the strengths of a Leupold. They have more eye relief than some others. For the Zeiss on my 30-06, I have some offset rings to bring it back more. But you really have to reach under the scope's bulky eye box to load and unload the rifle.



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November 16, 2017, 12:14 AM
sigcrazy7
I have these on the No.1 with the Zeiss.

https://ads.midwayusa.com/prod...EEAQYASABEgJLzPD_BwE

The rear ring is offset so the scope can be mounted farther back. This should solve any eye relief concerns you may have.



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November 16, 2017, 06:54 AM
cworetired
I have one in 30-06 and while it dosent shoot as good as my Tika rifles it is great on deer. For the opener it colected a 7point just fine. Mine is the short barrel and with a 3x Leupold it is a joy to carry. Get one and be the only guy at camp with a 1 shooter.
November 16, 2017, 02:09 PM
honestlou
What do y'all think of a "scout" scope for the No 1? I'm looking at this Leupold:

https://www.leupold.com/scopes...28mm-ier-scout-scope

It's a VX2, 1.5-4X, with 6-7 inches of eye relief. I'm thinking instead of having to use an offset mount and having the scope further over the action, this would let me move it up a tad. And it's super light and reasonably priced.
November 16, 2017, 03:11 PM
YellowJacket
I know some guys that have had to use the extended rear ring on their #1's, but I do not have an issue with a VXII 3-9x40 on my #1.



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November 28, 2017, 09:01 PM
cas
quote:
Originally posted by P-220:
I find the No. 1 International to be one of the most beautiful rifles.

I have longed for an 80's (red pad), chambered for .243.


A quick phone pic last week... my 475 and 243




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November 30, 2017, 08:39 AM
jaybirdaccountant
I wouldn't buy one with the thoughts it's going to be a highly accurate target rifle, but they're pretty guns and generally accurate enough for most hunting uses.
November 30, 2017, 03:19 PM
k5blazer
I have the Sporter in 30-06. Bought used from a coworker after her husband passed. Did a lot of reading on how to make it shoot better. The o-ring on the fore end bolt and coming up with the right handload helped. Like others have said not the most accurate rifle out there but it does attract attention at the range.
November 30, 2017, 05:50 PM
P-220
cas,

Thanks for posting. For me, that is just classically elegant.


Niech Zyje P-220

Steve
December 01, 2017, 01:33 AM
honestlou
quote:
Originally posted by cas:
quote:
Originally posted by P-220:
I find the No. 1 International to be one of the most beautiful rifles.

I have longed for an 80's (red pad), chambered for .243.


A quick phone pic last week... my 475 and 243



Beautiful guns. Thanks for the photos. I do love the international too. That is a big scope pushed way back. I am definitely going to try a scout scope for the eye relief. The Leupolds have about 6", which should be about right.
December 01, 2017, 06:46 AM
cas
Hmm... that is a fairly small scope, and it's in all honesty, not pushed back far enough. Remember, that's a BB gun sized rifle.


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December 01, 2017, 01:01 PM
rburg
I clicked the Midway link yesterday. I have no reason why I was even reading this thread. So today I'm barraged with Midway ads! Its probably google or someone following their instincts. If I clicked a link with scope rings, I want a dozen of them on the other sites I visit.

Thank God Para doesn't have ads here.


Unhappy ammo seeker
December 01, 2017, 04:30 PM
Bigboreshooter
quote:
Now to decide on a scope. I'm thinking minimalist, like maybe a fixed 4 power.

With factory rings, most scopes sit a bit forward on the rifle. A scope with plenty of eye relief works well on the No. 1's. Leupold really shines in this regard. I have found that Burris scopes work well too.

I've owned several over the years. All were capable of 1"-1.5" groups out of the box.





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December 02, 2017, 02:35 AM
honestlou
quote:
Originally posted by cas:
Hmm... that is a fairly small scope, and it's in all honesty, not pushed back far enough. Remember, that's a BB gun sized rifle.


On second look I can see that the scope is not that big, but what really got my attention is that it's pushed all the way back so that the back ring is bumping the turrets.

I see a lot of references to Leupolds having good eye relief, and most of them have up to 4" of eye relief, but a little less on the high end of a variable power scope. I also see a lot of offset rings being used to place the scope a little further back.

But, Leupold has three different "scout scopes" that have about 6" of eye relief. That seems pretty good for the No. 1. Interestingly enough, the only criticism of the Leupold "scout scopes" that I've seen is that the eye relief is not enough to be used in a very forward mounting position on a rife designed as a scout rifle. Other brand have "scout scopes" with eye relief well over a foot. Some seem to blur the line between "scout scope" and pistol scope.

Anyway, the Leupolds look about right with 6", hopefully allowing a mount more centered on the rings, with less overhang over the action.