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December 02, 2018, 11:00 AM
am94pm
AR charging handles
I have switched to BCM's. I use the mediums on my patrol style rifles and large on my bench/varmint guns.
December 02, 2018, 12:17 PM
dogrobber13
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by samnev:
Be careful of the latch size on the new BCM charging handles.I read thread a while back that the size of the latch of the new models is different from the old models. Don't remember the specifics.


Really?

If that's true, I'd be interested in some more details.
It's been a couple years since I've bought any BCM charging handles.


The new BCM Mod 4b has a smaller latch than the reg Mod 4.
I have one on a ar9 pistol only because it looks better on the smaller ar's.
December 27, 2018, 06:12 PM
RNshooter
The Geisselle charging handles came.

Wow! I didn't expect them to be this nice.

Bigger, smoother, ambidextrous. They look very strong and durable, too.

I don't know if I will get rid of any of the BCM handles but I won't be buying anything other than Geisselle, going forward.

Bruce






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December 27, 2018, 08:30 PM
RHINOWSO
Yeah, the Geissele SCH / ACH is very well executed - I love how the whole handle / latch moves, unlike others with just the latch portion.

I liked the BCMs but they started pinched my fingers from time to time. I know they have changed their design as well but I am already "all in" with SCH on scoped ARs and ACH on RDS ARs.
December 28, 2018, 03:23 AM
KevinCW
I am still a fan of the BCM medium handle





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December 28, 2018, 09:00 AM
19tass
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
All of my ARs have BCM Mediums.


Same here.
December 28, 2018, 09:25 AM
smithnsig
Just picked up one of the less expensive Radian Raptors. Seems just as sturdy as the other one. I’ll check in if it breaks.


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December 28, 2018, 02:29 PM
LDD
quote:
Originally posted by smithnsig:
less expensive Radian Raptors.


At the time this thread started, Geissele was still running their Black Friday sale, with ACH and SCH models at $49.00.

It was a buy-cheap-stack-deep opportunity for quality charging handles.
December 29, 2018, 06:33 AM
patw
For the price, it is hard to beat the BCM. I have a couple,(large size) and really like them.
December 02, 2019, 12:18 AM
radioman
quote:
Originally posted by LDD:

At the time this thread started, Geissele was still running their Black Friday sale, with ACH and SCH models at $49.00.

It was a buy-cheap-stack-deep opportunity for quality charging handles.


And a year later......., this deal is back. Just ordered one. $49 shipped.


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December 02, 2019, 02:59 AM
sigarmsp226
BCM just posted a Cyber Monday 30% off deal so their Medium Charging Handles are now on sale for $27.95 each...

NOTE - Discount does not appear until you put item(s) in your cart....Mark

https://www.bravocompanyusa.co...m-gfh-mod-4b-556.htm

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December 02, 2019, 04:28 AM
Jager
I stick with the Milspec CH.

How much use does it get among all these operators?

Too used to it to change. Might be an Arizona thing. Big Grin
December 02, 2019, 10:36 AM
fritz
quote:
Originally posted by Jager:
I stick with the Milspec CH.
How much use does it get among all these operators?

I'm not an "operator", just a weekend shooter who competes.

In matches where we consistently engage small-ish steel targets at 200-400 yards, most of us use magnified optics on our ARs. Many have a fairly large ocular lens that sits right above the charging handle, especially if we don't shoot nose-to-charging-handle. Such scope eyepieces can make it challenging to grab a milspec CH, especially with two fingers. Larger CHs -- especially ambidextrous models -- are easier to use with these scopes.

Most competitions have time constraints on stages or groups of stages. Such time limits really come into play in team events, multi-gun events, and complex stages. When the person is finished shooting the AR, range safety officers almost always require the shooter to drop the mag, clear the chamber, lock the bolt back, and show the RSO that the AR is safe prior to moving on. Thus, we use the CH constantly, and newer CH models are superior to the milspec design for this use.

If the milspec CH works for you, that's great.
December 02, 2019, 10:55 AM
parabellum
The older and now discontinued BCM Model 5 charging handle is standard on my ARs. I do I have a couple of scoped ARs which wear AXTS/Radian Raptor charging handles.






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December 02, 2019, 10:59 AM
powermad
I'm not an operator just another weekend plinker that found a mil-spec handle is pretty much useless when I plopped a scope on it. PITA wearing gloves as well.

I have Radian Raptors on mine that work much better for me.
December 02, 2019, 11:13 AM
bald1
Strike Industries ARCH-EL extended latch replacing a stock GI style charging handle on my only AR.





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December 02, 2019, 04:43 PM
Sig209
my take --

iron sight rear : not needed

scoped : BCM medium is a nice upgrade

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December 02, 2019, 08:41 PM
smithnsig
Raptors on all of mine except 1 that has a POF Tomahawk. It works really well but is a bit big when the rifle is slung.


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December 02, 2019, 08:58 PM
M4Super90
I just buy standard CH and then swap out the latch for a PRI weenie latch. Extended enough I never have issues grabbing it, easy on the hands without gloves, and the only one I've found that is big enough but without poking the crap out of my chest. Of course, I'm not usually wearing a chest rig or plate carrier.





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December 03, 2019, 09:46 AM
RNshooter
I used to swap out the latch on the milspec handle for the Badger extended latch. It does put a lot of stress on that roll pin but I never did have one break.
This thread reappearing "forced" me to buy more Geissele for me and some BCM for presents. Those are some great deals!

Bruce






"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams

“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken