I wanted one of these when they first came out, but wasn't going to pay the over-retail pricing. Ignored it for years after, until recently got an email from a vendor with a great price-$600--and I ordered it.

I picked it up this afternoon, and the crossbolt safety is backwards-at least backwards from any I've ever used in my 62 years on earth. I'm just disgusted. I called customer service to ask if it could be reversed, and the woman working the line didn't know, but said that the owner of the company is left handed. I can't believe this bullshit.

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Originally posted by honestlou:
...but said that the owner of the company is left handed.

FWIW, though I no longer actively employ shotguns in a home defense role, I found the safety on a shotgun of minimal use. If my Benellis or Remingtons or Ithacas had no safety at all, I wouldn't feel shortchanged.

Don't worry. once you try operating the action you will forget all about the saftey

I want the KS7. shorter, lighter, and smoother action

I don't recall my buddy's KS7 having a backwards safety, but if it did, the recoil probably knocked it from my memory.
I put 2 partial tubes through it & was done. Fun, but man it hits hard.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by honestlou:
...but said that the owner of the company is left handed.

FWIW, though I no longer actively employ shotguns in a home defense role, I found the safety on a shotgun of minimal use. If my Benellis or Remingtons or Ithacas had no safety at all, I wouldn't feel shortchanged.

I'll agree with this too. My Browning has a tang safety & the gun is either loaded & ready to go, or it's empty.
Except dove hunting, loaded & safety on, then.

That is one thing I love about Henry rifles. No safety to actuate at all.

Kel Tec is the epitome of they should come up with ideas and let others actually build them.

I understand "keep your finger off the trigger...", but do y'all keep a shotgun with a shell chambered with the safety off? Or do you not chamber a round until you pick it up?

I have no problem carrying a striker fired handgun with no safety, but it's not like a shotgun would be carried in a holster on your hip with the trigger covered.

I have a KSG as well and really like it. I usually don't keep one in the chamber and the racking of it will get someone's attention when need be.

On a side note, these things,KSG, are amazing when suppressed.

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Originally posted by honestlou:
I understand "keep your finger off the trigger...", but do y'all keep a shotgun with a shell chambered with the safety off? Or do you not chamber a round until you pick it up?

The second option, and it's typically known as "cruiser ready" as in police cruiser AFAIK.

Yes, correct.

Another option with pump-action shotguns is to chamber a round, then depress the release latch and open the action partially, so that you can see the chambered shell. This, of course, renders the shotgun safe, and simply sliding the pump handle forward to fully chamber the shell and lock the action puts you in the game.

Aside from rendering the shotgun safe, this accomplishes two things. First, you can close the action quietly rather than chambering a shell with the chack-chack sound. This could prove quite important in a home defense scenario.

Secondly, it allows you to have the shotgun loaded to full capacity- full magazine tube and a round in the chamber- yet in a safe condition with the safety off. In a shotgun with a capacity of four rounds, this is a 25% increase in firepower.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
That is one thing I love about Henry rifles. No safety to actuate at all.

Kel Tec is the epitome of they should come up with ideas and let others actually build them.

They actually do have a safety, just pull the hammer back to the 1st click. It’s considered the safety