Many folks have stated that the ASC brand 9mm Stick Mags are horrible. I have a factory built CMMG 9mm SBR; I use ASC Mags (blued Stainless with orange follower) all the time and have never had an issue.
What is wrong with them: i.e., jam, not seat, failure...?
If not ASC, what is the consensus concerning a better mag? (I’m reluctant to change since I’ve not had issues but would like to know).
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Posts: 591 | Location: Idaho | Registered: January 17, 2012
I use Metalform mags as they have a stellar reputation for my CMMG 9mm. I do have 6 ASC 32 rd mags just like yours that have not given me any trouble so far.
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Posts: 726 | Location: Wyoming | Registered: September 30, 2012
If I’m not wrong, I was told that the PSA Colt mags are made by Metalform. The various outings I’ve had with them have been perfect, even with a binary trigger. They are also a good price when PSA has them on sale.
EDIT: PSA says they’re made by Metalform in their description
Posts: 2505 | Location: Central Texas | Registered: August 22, 2009
I think the ASC reliability gets mixed up with C Products quality issues. I believe I read somewhere that both companies had a relationship somehow, maybe ASC evolved out of or was started by former C Product employees. Anyway, I have both Metalform and ASC colt style mags and both work as they should without any issues.
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Posts: 1153 | Location: The Republic of Texas | Registered: April 11, 2008
I've had dozens of ASC mags and never an issue out of them. I had a few C-products mags that sucked, but ASC are solid. I also had a half dozen PSA/Brownells marked metalform, but they were not cost effective for me when I got the same performance at $13 each
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Posts: 4597 | Location: Winchester, KY | Registered: December 31, 2009
I just want to know why I am always the loser in these things. Some guy tries some caliber conversion and it works mint, me I can't get the other caliber slide to even go on the gun. Such is the case with ASC mags. I also have dozens and dozens of them. In a standard Colt 9mm 6951 I find the failure rate is about 2 of 10. The failure rate of metalform mags has been 0. But given the price difference its worth tossing 2 in the trash if you can buy ASC inexpensively. And this is the good news if they are going to fail they do so right away, so if you use them and they are GTG it won't change.
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I had some C-products (garbage in my DDLES / YHM 9MM AR SBR) and ASC - I only had 4 but one was junk, FTF, etc.
The longer I'm around, I value my time and ammo more than trying to get some second rate junk to work and 'save' some money.
9MM cost about $0.20 a round. If you load up 32 ($6.40) and the mag gives you problems, then you tweak it and try it again (another $6.40), how much have you really saved...?
Originally posted by RHINOWSO: I had some C-products (garbage in my DDLES / YHM 9MM AR SBR) and ASC - I only had 4 but one was junk, FTF, etc.
The longer I'm around, I value my time and ammo more than trying to get some second rate junk to work and 'save' some money.
9MM cost about $0.20 a round. If you load up 32 ($6.40) and the mag gives you problems, then you tweak it and try it again (another $6.40), how much have you really saved...?
JMO.
Not to mention, if you are patient enough, then you can probably catch PSA's on sale cheaper than ASC. I paid $129.00 for 10 - 32 round PSA's shipped last year.
Originally posted by hrcjon: I just want to know why I am always the loser in these things. Some guy tries some caliber conversion and it works mint, me I can't get the other caliber slide to even go on the gun. Such is the case with ASC mags. I also have dozens and dozens of them. In a standard Colt 9mm 6951 I find the failure rate is about 2 of 10. The failure rate of metalform mags has been 0. But given the price difference its worth tossing 2 in the trash if you can buy ASC inexpensively. And this is the good news if they are going to fail they do so right away, so if you use them and they are GTG it won't change.
What problems did you have with the ASC Mags?
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Posts: 591 | Location: Idaho | Registered: January 17, 2012
Originally posted by hrcjon: In a standard Colt 9mm 6951 I find the failure rate is about 2 of 10. The failure rate of metalform mags has been 0. But given the price difference its worth tossing 2 in the trash if you can buy ASC inexpensively. And this is the good news if they are going to fail they do so right away, so if you use them and they are GTG it won't change.
I would gladly pay the shipping if you want send those "trashed" mags to me!
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Posts: 4290 | Location: Metamora MI | Registered: October 31, 2003
Originally posted by gjgalligan: I have a Stag brand 9mm AR and I have 10rd, 20rd, & 32rd mags with the ASC name. No problems in the 2 years I have been using them.
Stag mags are ASC mags.
I have mostly PSA Metalforms, a few ASC which work just fine too.
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They don't retain the top round when partially loaded (again this is only a small fraction of them). In our tactical matches we download the mag, so you load it, put it your mag carrier, then when you grab that mag and attempt to load it the top round is problematic. I'm guessing they have a spring tension issue sometimes but its just a guess or maybe a feed lip variance. But in any case I never have the issue with metalform. FWIW>
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