https://fragoutmag.com/shot-sh...-generation-fn-scar/

Looks like they changed the rail to be mlok (about damn time) and also made it longer.
AR pistol grip compatibility.
Lighter BCG (that's a low bar cuz the previous one was huge).

Underwhelmed would be an understatement, for me, although I’ll give them a thumbs up for the now easily removable front sight.

Well it's about fucking time for the full length rail. Absurd that it's taken so long. If the trigger doesnt suck and require a $400 swap, we may have a rifle on our hands...

~9 pounds now without optics. Good grief. Going in the wrong direction, folks.

Wouldn’t even call that full length. It’s only maybe two-thirds of full.

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Wouldn’t even call that full length. It’s only maybe two-thirds of full.

I'm giving them partial credit considering the previous rail was about 6" long.

The article also says it has a hydraulically buffered bolt carrier to reduce felt recoil. Also mentions improved trigger. Doesn’t say, but I assume they are NRCH models, like the recent ones. They mention that’s it’s finally suppressor compatible with forward venting suppressors, which I take to mean low backpressure suppressors, but don’t the previous SCARs work best with low backpressure suppressors.

Will be interesting to see reviews on them and what the street price is. But, I’ve already sunk money on my 16S and 17S, and have rails, a better trigger, and a KNS Discarder, so will probably pass.

I’m actually quite grateful that everything appears to be pretty backwards compatible with the originals. I don’t feel a need to stock up too much on backup parts for my SCAR 17 and 20S since the wear items especially should be available for the foreseeable future. It’s pretty clear that their whole “end of a legend” or whatever the heck they called their campaign when they announced the end of production was a bone thrown to dealers to help them move sitting inventory. I’m ok with that as long as they’re continuing the production in essence.

Looks ugly. I like the classic better. It would look better with the vent cuts for the piston area.

Is the 20 a DMR style 5.56?
I know 15 = 5.56 & 17 = 308. Hadn't seen a 20 before.

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Is the 20 a DMR style 5.56?

.308 just like the first gen 20S. Also in 6.5 CM.

Regarding trigger, the following article mentions that the 16S and 17S have improved single-stage trigger, while the 20S comes with a two-stage one.
https://militarnyi.com/en/news...evious-model-prices/

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Is the 20 a DMR style 5.56?

.308 just like the first gen 20S. Also in 6.5 CM.

Ah, magazine looked smaller in the above photo, so thought 5.56

Doesn't sound road march friendly. But then again, I've always wanted to play with a SCAR or an M-1A in 6.5 flavor.

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Wouldn’t even call that full length. It’s only maybe two-thirds of full.

Yeah, but some of us aren’t interested in these at 16” barrel length and would only want one if we were going to SBR it, and that’s a full length rail for an SBR.

It’s still way too goddamned expensive for what it is. FN needs to quit huffing their own farts.

Well, I know most people aren't happy with it but I think it's fine. I threw the entire PMM catalog at mine and this is basically that plus being factory ambi. It's never failed me in many a gun game or Run & Gun event. When you see what H&K is getting for their rifle this is practically in line. Also, who pays MSRP anyways?!

I think these look great. True ambi controls. Extended handguard with MLOK. A friend shot them at SHOT Range Day and said they shoot much softer than the first generation guns. He has plenty of time behind the older SCARs. My only hope for these is that they offer the stock that debuted on the FN IWS/LICC. I am definitely a buyer.

I’m also a buyer; I have a 16S now and love it but the amount of t of aftermarket upgrades required always irked me. This thing appears exactly what I want from the factory at no additional cost.

The SCAR is a great shooting rifle, I’ll be a buyer for sure.

The big news for me is 2 things. The biggest is the they are going to have a 2 pc bolt carrier group that signifigantly reduces recoil and hopefully will solve the problem of SCAR's eating optics. 2nd is that there is a new endplate adaptor that can use any ar-15 Buttstock. BOTH of these are backwards compatible! Great news here, I'll be buying bolt carriers as soon as they are available and I can afford them.

Also the lower receiver will accept AR-15 grips without Modification.

The new trigger doesn't matter to me since all mine already have Geisselle's but it's nice for new buyers.

I think we should commend FN for allowing the new improvements to be backwards compatible. Most companies would force you to buy a new gun to have the improvements...........DJ

Here's the video showing all of this:

https://youtu.be/KTQxR7I6Mmc?si=4SPN5r6csQGCJ1pD

$3,799 MSRP for the 16S is crazy in light of the glut of 5.56 options on the market.