... and immediately sells out.

https://palmettostatearmory.co...er_multi_v2=.308+Win


After a year of teasers and prototype testing videos, the email announcing its long-awaited availability showed up today. I clicked on it immediately.

Cool. 8 different variations available to choose from. I click on one to check it out, then go back to the main landing page.

No, wait, make that 5 models available. 3 are now sold out.

Click on second one to check out the different specs briefly, then back to the main page. Now 2 available. 6 sold out.

Another minute later, and all are sold out!

It appears to be in even higher demand than I anticipated.


I look forward to reading/watching some reviews once these hit consumers' hands.

Cost is reasonable at $1499. No details on weight. So provided it's reliable, and weighs less than 9ish pounds, I may potentially be grabbing one sometime in the coming year or two. Once the hysteria dies down.

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They will never publish the weight. Never did for the 5.56 JAKL. When you get one, let us know!

What was the price?

$1499

To not publish the weight is bizarre.

They don’t publish weight on any of their products. It’s frustrating.

The weight is really the deciding factor here. Considering how fast these sold out, though, I imagine someone will put one on a scale before too long.

The 14.5” 5.56 has been reported as 7 lb 12 ounces.

13.7” weight is the 7 lb 9 ounces according to PSA.

10.5” with full mag, red dot, and light was 8 lb 11.3 ounces.

Another owner reported his 300 BLK as 8 lb 3 ounces. Not sure of the barrel length.


Gonna keep looking for more weights.

I do not like the way the barrels are attached to the receivers on these rifles one bit.

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
The weight is really the deciding factor here.

Same for their AR10s.

i know nothing about these rifles but the weight worries to me seem somewhat overly silly. It is going to be a range rifle or at the very most a shtf rifle and weight is not a big factor in either. No one is going to be lugging one around for weeks.
AR10 are on the heavy side. Not sure pSA's are overly heavy either.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
i know nothing about these rifles but the weight worries to me seem somewhat overly silly.

Just because weight isn't a concern to you for the specific purposes you have in mind, doesn't mean it isn't a factor to everyone else. Try lugging a rifle around for hours, on something like a stalk/push while hunting, or during an extended barricaded suspect situation. Those few extra pounds are noticeable. Lighter is better.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
AR10 are on the heavy side.

They don't have to be. The old school AR-10B style .308 ARs that most manufacturers are offering nowadays are needlessly bulky and heavy, because rather than basing it on the original AR-10 design the designer instead simply took the AR-15 design and scaled it up +X% in every dimension, even where it wasn't needed.

But in the subsequent 3 decades since that style of heavy .308 AR debuted, other companies have figured out that instead of simply taking the easy route of making yet another bulky AR-10B clone, it was possible to design a .308 AR that's the same size and weight as a 5.56 AR, only being slightly bigger in a few key areas like the magazine well, barrel, and bolt head.

So considering that there are now options for AR-15-sized .308 ARs in the sub-7 pound realm (for example the POF Rogue is 6 pounds and the Ruger SFAR is 6.8 pounds), there's really no reason to go with an old style 9 to 10+ pound .308 rifle these days.

(Besides, the original AR-10 was only 7.25 pounds. )

Using a piston operating system instead of DI necessarily adds a little weight, but even then there are options for 7-8 pound piston .308 rifles, like the POF Revolution or even the SCAR-17. So again, no need to go with a 9-10+ pound rifle.

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Originally posted by OttoSig:
The 14.5” 5.56 has been reported as 7 lb 12 ounces.

13.7” weight is the 7 lb 9 ounces according to PSA.

10.5” with full mag, red dot, and light was 8 lb 11.3 ounces.

Another owner reported his 300 BLK as 8 lb 3 ounces. Not sure of the barrel length.


Gonna keep looking for more weights.

These new .308 versions will be heftier than their 5.56 version. The question is how much...

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the weight worries to me seem somewhat overly silly

Don't count me among the "worried". I just think it's bogus that the manufacturer omit that stat, when it's clearly important to many. It's a basic data point on stuff like this.

It might be the most reliable and durable self-loading rifle design to come down the pike since George Patton was in knee pants, but I stick to well-established platforms.

Investing God knows how much into a new design and then finding out that it's somehow hinky is not my idea of fun.

I’ve been thinking about a gen two Galil Ace pisto in 308 lately. I’m not sure if the $300 difference in price is enough to make me gamble on the JAKL. Decisions…

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by old rugged cross:
i know nothing about these rifles but the weight worries to me seem somewhat overly silly.

Just because weight isn't a concern to you for the specific purposes you have in mind, doesn't mean it isn't a factor to everyone else. Try lugging a rifle around for hours, on something like a stalk/push while hunting, or during an extended barricaded suspect situation. Those few extra pounds are noticeable. Lighter is better.


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I have lugged heavy rifles in hunting situations with no problems.

So again, I do not think in "most" situations a pound, two or three is a huge deal. Mtcw anyways. Also, some extra weight while firing a significantly larger round has some benefit.

I don’t mind lugging a heavy rifle. For me it’s if you’re trying to hold it on target for a minute or so. Also scanning sucks with a heavy rifle.

I wouldn’t turn one down for free, but if i can save two pounds when it’s my money I’ll definitely do it.

I’ve gotten kind spoiled hunting with a MK10 SBR lmao. Prolly ain’t but 6 lbs wet.

And I’m 100% tracking that 308 variations will weight more that older offerings, just trying to get some numbers down in a singular place until someone posts the 308 weights.

Weights of the Jakl in general seems to be a commonly asked question.

Anyone cares to comment on the aluminum on these rifles? They use 6061 instead of 7076.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Anyone cares to comment on the aluminum on these rifles? They use 6061 instead of 7076.

I believe, and I may be wrong, that 6061 is easier to weld while being less “hard”. How much mechanical stress is put on the aluminum parts in this design? Is it like and AR lower that doesn’t particularly incur any stresses?

Are the aluminum parts welded in this design?

I realize I asked more questions than answers.