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Bought a scope, and went with this, thanks fritz…

https://www.eurooptic.com/Vort...-4-MOA-PST-5251.aspx

Now what scope mounting setup should I go with? At this this point I’m thinking of going with a steel pic rail, and probably some Badger rings. Anything else I should know or consider?

*update, bought a scope, see above*
Looking to modernize the optic on my early 90’s Remington 700PSS with a 26” heavy barrel. I know snipers got it done with a 10x, but I think I’d like a little more, maybe 18 or 20x? Recommendations in the $1k price range, give or take a little. New or used is fine!

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Just looked at Leupold's site. Their VX3 6.5-20 scopes are 950ish. I bought one 20 years ago for my Remington 700VS and it works. I did get it through Premier Reticle and they installed the Gen2 Mil-Dots.

My setup got the rolleyes from the snobs at a 'snipers' website, but she does 3" groups on target at 600meters. I would love to push it further, but not many places in the NoVa area to shoot outside, and even those are limited to 100yards.


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If I were shopping for what you are shopping for I would grab one of these Trijicon Tenmiles that are on clearance.
https://www.eurooptic.com/Trij...ination-30mm-Sa.aspx

I have having a very difficult time not pulling the trigger in the Credo 1-4 on clearance for a current AR build.


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I’ll definitely check those out!





10mm lays waste to entire cities, cuts through diamonds and will tear Superman a new asshole. - Parabellum

Sex offenders can not be rehabilitated. It's in their wiring. They should not be released back into the general public. On the other hand they should not be warehoused either. I think they should be executed.....Spectre

When someone tries to kill you, it doesn't matter how they are doing it. You're in mortal danger, and it's time to try to kill them back.

Arc.
___

Kill every last one of these goddamned animals. We need a president with balls. We need leadership. We should be carpet bombing these barbarians wherever we find them, and we should be looking for them 24/7. We have to unleash Hell upon them. They understand nothing but death, so death is what we should bring them, wholesale.... Para

I left "practical" behind many years ago. It was covered with my first Glock 19. (Fredward)
 
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Love my 4-20x50 Nikon Monarch
Bummer they got out of the market.




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Originally posted by pepsiblue:
I know snipers got it done with a 10x...

Well, you're not a sniper, so there's that.

You should consider a few things before you buy a new scope.
- MOA or milrad for angular adjustments. Both work just fine. Make certain your new scope has one or the other, but not both. This includes the elevation knob, windage knob, and reticle.

- Determine your desired type of reticle. Simple crosshairs, holdover, Christmas tree, mil or MOA subtensions for elevation & windage.

- Determine if you want to dial for different target distances or use the reticle. Determine if you want capped turrets or not.

- With a scope magnification of 10x or more, you will need adjustable parallax. If you plan to shoot at distances of 50 yards or less, you must consider the minimum parallax setting.

- Determine if you want first focal plane or second focal plane reticle. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. For higher magnification applications, IMO FFP has many advantages.

- Chose glass clarity over higher magnification.

- As a gun owner, don't buy Communist Chinese products.

- The type of shooting you do, your preferred target types, the precision you expect, whether you shoot at single or multiple targets, your target distances -- all should be factors in determining your scope.
 
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I would take a look at Bushnell. For used you can get a really capable scope for what you want to spend.



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for 1K you have a decent list of options depending on features/manufacturer.
the new vortex pst genii seem really nice. heavy. but a 26" heavy barrel isnt exactly lightweight Smile

i have a trijicon credo. good glass, illumination is a bit dim. i think the HX and other models have better illumination.

a little below your 18x range but:
leica amplus 6 2.5-15x

also cant say enough good things about eurooptic
 
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pepsi blue and all,

When I upgraded from the Luppie MK IV 10X I upgraded to a new rifle and optic. I haven't looked back and it's a match made in heaven IMHO...

The rifle is a G.A. Precision "Rock" .308 and the optics are the Nightforce 4 x 16 ATACR with MOA reticle. I highly recommend it. Nightforce is making the ATACR line in 4x16, 5x20, and 5x25. They also offer a 7x35 if you're power hungry.



It sounds like it's about time to upgrade your rifle.


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Originally posted by pepsiblue:
Recommendations in the $1k price range, give or take a little.

An important consideration.

As noted in other posts, review Trijicon, Leupold, and Bushnell. There may be something that works for you.

Vortex Viper PST II scopes should be high on your short list. The 3-15x runs $1000 and the 5-25x runs $1100. These scopes are among the best on the market for the money.

Burris XTR III 3.3-18x is $1250. Burris XTR II had CA issues, but the III model supposedly has those issues fixed. XTR II turrets had a nice feel and the glass was bright.

If you don't have a good buying source, consider sportoptics.com. Calling them results in 10-15% discount from website listed prices. You just have to ask a sales rep for their best deal. Similar to some of the other good optics sites, sportoptics offers demo and open box items here and there. I got a good deal on a scope and a pair of binos this way.


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Nightforce is making the ATACR line in 4x16, 5x20, and 5x25. They also offer a 7x35 if you're power hungry.

Unless the OP considers doubling or tripling his budget, Nightforce ATACR recommendations don't work. The 4-16x is a pretty decent scope at $2500. The best ATACRs are the 4-20x at $3000, the 5-25x at $3100, and the 7-35x at $3600.
 
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Thought on the Leupold vx3 6.5-20 as compared to the PST2, or some of the other suggestions?





10mm lays waste to entire cities, cuts through diamonds and will tear Superman a new asshole. - Parabellum

Sex offenders can not be rehabilitated. It's in their wiring. They should not be released back into the general public. On the other hand they should not be warehoused either. I think they should be executed.....Spectre

When someone tries to kill you, it doesn't matter how they are doing it. You're in mortal danger, and it's time to try to kill them back.

Arc.
___

Kill every last one of these goddamned animals. We need a president with balls. We need leadership. We should be carpet bombing these barbarians wherever we find them, and we should be looking for them 24/7. We have to unleash Hell upon them. They understand nothing but death, so death is what we should bring them, wholesale.... Para

I left "practical" behind many years ago. It was covered with my first Glock 19. (Fredward)
 
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Gents,

I realize that my example of the scope and rifle were way over the budget pepsiblue stipulated. That was done to show that there are "options", abeit, expensive ones.

I lived with Nikon's and Luepold MK IV's for years and was very happy. Saved some money and sold off a few items and had the "Rock" built. Wanted top notch optics and settled on the very expensive Nightforce ATACR MOAR 4 x 16 x 42mm. I have other rifles, but this is the one that does it for me...

My advice is by a good rifle and the best optics you can afford, smile, and be happy. You'll be glad you did.

Wes
 
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Bump for an update





10mm lays waste to entire cities, cuts through diamonds and will tear Superman a new asshole. - Parabellum

Sex offenders can not be rehabilitated. It's in their wiring. They should not be released back into the general public. On the other hand they should not be warehoused either. I think they should be executed.....Spectre

When someone tries to kill you, it doesn't matter how they are doing it. You're in mortal danger, and it's time to try to kill them back.

Arc.
___

Kill every last one of these goddamned animals. We need a president with balls. We need leadership. We should be carpet bombing these barbarians wherever we find them, and we should be looking for them 24/7. We have to unleash Hell upon them. They understand nothing but death, so death is what we should bring them, wholesale.... Para

I left "practical" behind many years ago. It was covered with my first Glock 19. (Fredward)
 
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Now what scope mounting setup should I go with? At this this point I’m thinking of going with a steel pic rail, and probably some Badger rings. Anything else I should know or consider?

A pic rail is the way to go. If you haven't already purchased the rail, consider a canted rail -- generally 20 MOA, but even 10 or 15 MOA works.

I recommend the more standard 2 ring system for bolt action rifles, rather than the 1-piece mount. Quality rings are very solid, they maintain zero, and they cost less.

Badger is definitely a good option. Also Vortex, Seekins, Hawkins, Nightforce -- I'm certainly missing some good options. I have Nightforce rings on all my bolt actions, and I can't complain.
 
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