P365XL - Rear sight moved off of the optic cut cover plate?
I think the slides with the Rear Sight Plate are/were intended to be used with SIG's optics that feature a Rear Sight Notch in the housing. I believe this rear sight notch works with many standard height front sights. This is a nice feature if you remove the optic, because you're not left with tall suppressor-height sights.
However, many LE Agencies require separate BUIS. On the P320, slides/guns that feature a separate rear sight were called PRO models. It appears SIG is now using the term "Professional Series" to describe these guns. This option is good for those who do not intend to carry/shoot the gun without an optic.
I'm guessing these same factors/wants/requests are now being applied to the P365. I think it's great to have more options available.
October 05, 2022, 09:39 AM
NavyGuy
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Originally posted by FrankMoses: The only bummer is the old style pretty much forces you to use SIG OEM sights. Forever.
You can always get a new slide. That's actually a good option if you don't want the optic on 100% of the time. Use the original slide for when you want irons only, and the new one dedicated to optic. Much simpler to change out.
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October 05, 2022, 09:47 AM
pedropcola
I use a Holosun 507c. The built in rear sight works well with the stock front sight. It’s preferable to me over suppressor height sights which I hate.
October 05, 2022, 04:34 PM
NavyGuy
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Originally posted by pedropcola: I use a Holosun 507c. The built in rear sight works well with the stock front sight. It’s preferable to me over suppressor height sights which I hate.
I dislike suppresser height irons unless you actually have and use a suppresser, which IMO is a great option for home defense, but terrible for carry.
I'm a bit confused on the 507c. Looking at the spec, there's no built in sights. Seems the K series has the sights but not the C. Am I not seeing this correctly?
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October 05, 2022, 04:50 PM
ffhounddog
Well they did not have any of the new versions in stock. So the debate starts get the one XL with safety to start shooting or wait. I have 2 p365 X-macros on order.
October 05, 2022, 05:56 PM
YVK
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Originally posted by NavyGuy:
I'm a bit confused on the 507c. Looking at the spec, there's no built in sights. Seems the K series has the sights but not the C. Am I not seeing this correctly?
He misspoke. I noticed it earlier this morning but had to run. 407K, 507K, EPS Carry, and EPS have built in rear sights. On most 365s 407K and 507K give a true zero with a factory front. The sights are visible in a lower 1/6th or 1/7th "cowitness", whatever that means, fashion. On EPS Carry they are barely visible for like lower 1/10th cowitness, so much so that shooting them for zero is an exercise in futility. Apparently SIG has a taller front sight for that setup.
October 05, 2022, 06:49 PM
Rey HRH
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Originally posted by Il Cattivo: ^^^ Maybe they're trying to avoid having to ask the military to change the specs on the M17 and M18? I'd think they'd have to do it eventually, though.
I have an M18 and that's one of the things I don't like - that you lose the rear sight when you put on an RDS. That and the sights aren't suppressor height sights. But that doesn't mean they can' offer slides for the civilian version that does keep the rear sight with an RDS, right?
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October 07, 2022, 01:22 PM
Il Cattivo
^^^ That's how I see it. My thought was that SIG traditionally hates keeping inventory on hand and it would be cheaper to make just one kind of slide for both civilian sales and military contracts. Then again, they're busy offering a range of slides to take advantage of the 320's modularity, so...I don't know.
October 09, 2022, 06:48 AM
Paten
Sig has to have the rear sight on the sight plate for the M17 and M18 because of the Loaded Chamber Indicator on the military models. So that can never change.
October 09, 2022, 04:45 PM
pedropcola
Yup, I meant 507k. This is a 365 thread, its the k series that it is threaded for. My bad.
October 21, 2022, 12:49 AM
BBMW
Well, I didn't have to wait long. The picture below is off of SIG's site. Apparently the rear sight on the XCompact has moved off the cover plate also.
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Originally posted by BBMW: Waiting to see if/when they do this with the P320 XCompact line also. They already have the tooling set up. They have this setup with the RXP models. But the ones shipping without optics installed still seem to have the rear sight on the plate. This make absolutely no sense, because they seem to be going out of their way to have two different slides for essentially the same gun.
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October 21, 2022, 02:32 PM
1lowlife
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Originally posted by 220-9er: Mine doesn't have the optic and is marked XL so it doesn't look like what I'm seeing in the video. I put the Magguts +2 in my 12 round mag and it seems to function flawlessly. The base-plate is hardly any thicker than the stock part so it doesn't add much at all to the length, maybe an eighth inch at most.
Thanks for mentioning the Magguts +2 for the XL. I just ordered 3 of them..
