I love Glocks. Have had them all. Now i see the G49 is out. 17 slide on a 19 frame. Is this something anyone was waiting/asking for ?
Right now my only Glock is a Gen 5 26, which i also have a 19 barrel for. Drop that in at the range sometimes for a little more velocity. Shoots and carries great with either barrel like they all do.
The 49 has me intrigued but not sure why.

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Originally posted by longjohn:
Now i see the G49 is out. 17 slide on a 19 frame. Is this something anyone was waiting/asking for ?

Actually, yes.

This initially came about as a result of the Customs and Border Protection contract. They wanted a full sized and compact combo of 9mm handguns that had slide and frame interchangeability and parts commonality. So Glock made them the G47, which had a newly designed 17ish slide on a G45 frame and compatible with G19 frames. Paired with the G19, the new G47 was adopted by CBP in 2019, and then a few years later Glock started offering the G47 and G49 as options on the open market.

And for a concealed carrier, a longer slide and shorter grip makes more sense than a shorter slide and longer grip like the G45, since the grip typically prints more than the muzzle. (Though the opposite is true for LE/mil use.)


But I agree that, of these four possible slide/frame combos (G19/G45/G47/G49), the G47 and G49 are the least attractive to me, and likely the least in demand on the market as a whole.

The G47/G49's G17-sized slide has a mere 0.47" of extra barrel length/sight radius over the G19/G45 slide, which offers negligible differences in aiming precision and velocity/performance. Even less of an impact if using an optic. Might as well just go with the G19 or G45.

I can see the want for something like that. I had one of my G19's chopped to accept 26 mags and I mainly use it for carry under light clothing, like a short sleeve shirt or t shirt. Might be cheaper to get a used leo trade in 17 and have it chopped by someone.

A SC grip C slide P320 has been on my to-try list for a long time.
Just haven't gotten around to getting the bits [grip & mag] for it.
A FS/C combo would be interesting as well, but I already run into holy jeans from the muzzle end of my IWB holster with a C length slide, would be curious how much different it would be with a FS length, if at all.

Glock really needs a chassis system, they are going the long way around for "modularity"!

Agreed. And now that Ruger/Magpul has beat them to the market with just such a system, I would not be surprised if the Gen 6 Glocks had a chassis system.

Keep in mind being Glock, or specifically the team tasked with updating the Glock pistol, has got to be a maddening position to be in. In the car world it’s like the unenviable position said team tasked with updating the Jeep Wrangler or Porsche 911 are in. How do you make changes without screwing up what is a legacy/icon at this point?

You can’t run the risk of making things more complicated or less durable.
You sure as hell cannot mess with the magazines. I mean I think my toaster takes Glock mags at this point.
You can’t run the risk of reliability issues.

So how do you update a Glock Pistol while at the same time making damn sure it’s still a Glock pistol? I’m not saying there are not changes to be had I am just saying I wouldn’t want to be on that team. It’s not just a fan base to contend with, it’s literally an entire generation for whom the word Glock is synonymous with semi automatic pistol. (Is that Walther a Glock???? You get the point.)

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Originally posted by longjohn:
I love Glocks. Have had them all. Now i see the G49 is out. 17 slide on a 19 frame. Is this something anyone was waiting/asking for ?

It makes a lot more sense for carry than what they did with the 19X/G45 when they came out. Everyone freaked out and was asking WHY? YOU DID IT BACKWARDS FROM WHAT WE WANTED.

19 grip is shorter and easier to conceal, while longer 17 slide/barrel gives better velocity, possibly better sight radius/practical accuracy, and isn't any harder to conceal for most people since its all down inside the belt (or in an OWB holster).

A 19 slide on a 26 frame is another popular request... maybe that'll be the G50.

For gen3 the 17 and 19 used different locking block profiles and couldn't be interchanged (though you could put a 19 barrel in a 26 as you noted).

For Gen5, they standardized the 19 and 17 so you can swap uppers. Hence the G47 and G49.

https://athlonoutdoors.com/article/glock-g49-mos/

I have two "Glock 49's", one I had cut down from a G17 frame to 19, one I bought from Shadow Systems (MR920L). I like them both a lot, but Rogue's point about the longer sight radius not being needed with RDOs is, IMO, correct.

I'm waiting for a Ruger 19 top, 17 bottom with the new ACRO cut. That, I think, will be the shit.

Is there a large market probably not but I am part of the small market.
Especially now with the MecGar Glock 19 mags that hold 18 rounds if I had the choice I would carry a 49 over a 17.

I like the grip feel of the 19 better and it’s more comfortable for me when sitting especially in hard backed chairs.
Like the longer slide even though the results are likely negligible.

If I can find an LE 49 with the COA I may just have to grab one.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
Especially now with the MecGar Glock 19 mags that hold 18 rounds

For clarification, the new Mec-Gar Glock mags are both G17 (standard duty) length, with the "G19" having a kind of sleeve around the bottom portion that sticks out of the grip. But they do hold 18 rounds. I imagine they'll probably come out with 16-round flush-fit G19-length mags eventually.

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It makes a lot more sense for carry than what they did with the 19X/G45 when they came out. Everyone freaked out and was asking WHY? YOU DID IT BACKWARDS FROM WHAT WE WANTED.

Um, not everyone. Why would anyone want this scenario of a long full-sized slide with a shorter compact frame grip, especially with only a change from a 4"+ to almost 4 1/2". Sure it offers a longer sight radius, but is there really any significant improvement for what amounts to being a service-level weapon? I don't know how it is with you, but I pretty much shoot G17s and G19s equally as well, so a G17 slide on a G19 doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense to me, especially prior to some wholesale trigger job being part of the 'solution' in order to make that pistol more of a range toy.

I get the reasoning for a subcomp G26 getting a G19 sized slide; that's a change that is offers a fairly substantial improvement with regards to sight radius and perhaps some added beneficial mass towards the muzzle end for recoil rise. But I don't see this being such a necessity for a compact pistol like the G19 that already handles, sights and shoots well as-is.

Besides, it was the Pentagon who thought the G19X (and P320 "Carry"/M18) size was the solution for some important issue that they wanted solved. The G45 of course was just the extension for those out in the gun-buying world who didn't want poopie brown on their next mid-sizedish Glock. For me, if anything the G19X/G45 makes the G17 the redundant model.

I’ve had a 49 since they came out. I promptly sold my 19. It’s my favorite Glock

I wonder if they will come out with a model 50. Then rappers could call it the "Glock 'Fiddy.'"

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Originally posted by Chuck Perry:
Glock really needs a chassis system, they are going the long way around for "modularity"!

Maybe some of the folks currently testing the Gen6 that signed a non-disclosure agreement would like to chime in and let us know how they like it.

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RogueJSK:
The G47/G49's G17-sized slide has a mere 0.47" of extra barrel length/sight radius over the G19/G45 slide, which offers negligible differences in aiming precision and velocity/performance. Even less of an impact if using an optic. Might as well just go with the G19 or G45.

I believe a majority of people will still find the G17/G47 sized guns easier to shoot well when looking to squeeze out every oz. of performance. When shooting a G47 and G45/19x back to back, I can tell a difference. The slides on the G47 and G49 are over an ounce heavier than a G17. A G47 loaded is 34.29 oz. A G45 is 30.34 oz. The 4 ounces of extra weight is at the muzzle where it does make a small but notable difference.


I would actually like to see the grip on the G26 made slightly longer (maybe 12 round flush fit) and leave the slide size alone.
The G26 is a fantastic pistol once I have it in hand. The super short grip makes drawing the gun less consistent.

I prefer my 19, although I have shot some awfully tight groups at 25 yds with my 17. I see no need to change anything..

Still waiting for a 19 frame and a 26 slide.

My Size L hands are better-served by the original G17-length grip frame. A G17-length grip reaches all the way to the “heel bone” part of my hand, for better stability and better recoil mitigation. Plus, I had not found the G17 grip any more difficult to conceal than a G19 grip. (In each case, that which printed, against my clothes, has been the outer rear corner of the slide.) So, I was not asking for a gun built like a G49. The G19x/G45 is better, for me, if carried IWB, or in a “high-ride” OWB holster, because it clears leather/Kydex sooner, making the draw a bit easier, especially for my gimpy right shoulder.

A longer barrel does, of course, within reason, result in a better burn of the available powder. A longer sight radius does help in precise aiming. So, there is value in a longer barrel/slide. It is good to have choices.

Finally, by age 56, in 2017, the G19-sized grip frame was starting to really vex a most-sensitive part of my right hand. The “heel” of the G19 had become a torture device. Since then, the G19x has been my “compact” Glock. I’ll still shoot my one remaining G19 with my healthier left hand, but owning any other Glock with a G19-length grip has no really practical purpose.

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Originally posted by DTREND75:
Still waiting for a 19 frame and a 26 slide.

Apparently a 26x may be coming.

What's interesting is that the G49 is still absent from Glock's website.