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LGS had one today.
Under $1,000. The slide felt like it was on ball bearings. Easily the smoothest slide I have ever come across (though that is not saying much). The trigger was light and crisp. Sure would have liked to fire it.
They had a Springfield Operator Longslide in 10mm for $600 more than the Witness. Not even close.
Of course these things come around when the gun fund is at zero.

Anyone have one or fired one??? How does it shoot?


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Of course these things come around when the gun fund is at zero.

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I just picked up a glock 40 (yeah - I know - the dark side!) friday & took it out to the range sunday - good accuracy & not to bad to fire - don't have an optic for it yet - not sure what to save up to get yet


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This does not indict all EAA Witness pistols, but personally, I stay away. It's is an anecdotal cautionary tale.

I had a Witness Elite Match .45ACP before they put a rail on it. At the time, 2006, it was $400. Once I shot it, I thought it was the best deal going. My FFL also doesn't sell them anymore.

I loved that gun. Fantastic trigger, smooth, wicked accurate and fit my hand perfectly. However, one day at the range only about two months into owning it it failed to fire.

When I called EAA, they strongly warned me not to fire it and to send it to them, which I did under warranty. My FFL paid for the shipment to them. I had a couple of rather surly conversations with their gunsmith at the time, surly on his part.

In the end, they returned the pistol and had had to replace the barrel. To give them credit, they crowned it, fitted a couple of magazines (which had a tendency to drop free on their own, and had never fit wall at all), and did a trigger job, all for free.

However, I found it hard to trust a gun that had failed so significantly so soon after buying it. I appreciated the extras they did to enhance the gun, I assume in exchange for the failure, but sold it shortly after with full disclosure. The only time I shot it after getting it back was to verify it was fixed.

At the time a very well know gunsmith commented publicly in a post "it must be a special kind of hell working on Tanfoglio pistols all day". Perhaps I took that too much to heart, but gunsmithing is his expertise, not mine.

In addition, the frame was peening noticeably after not that many trips to the range.

Perhaps they have improved and it appears their more expensive guns are adored by some competitive shooters. Also, this was on the lower end of their product line. Still, I wouldn't choose to spend my money on another Witness even though the Hunter has appealed to me too.
 
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it appears their more expensive guns are adored by some competitive shooters.


the last 8 uspsa production national titles have been won with tanfo's, i believe, as well as Production, Limited and second in Open at the World Shoot last year... their higher end stuff is phenomenal.


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it appears their more expensive guns are adored by some competitive shooters.


the last 8 uspsa production national titles have been won with tanfo's, i believe, as well as Production, Limited and second in Open at the World Shoot last year... their higher end stuff is phenomenal.


I figured there had to be a reason.

I certainly didn't have a good experience, but perhaps I just bought a lemon.
 
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I certainly didn't have a good experience, but perhaps I just bought a lemon twelve years ago.


A lot may have changed since the bolds I added. Early 90’s Sig pistols are generally considered at a sweet spot of production. Just saying.


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I certainly didn't have a good experience, but perhaps I just bought a lemon twelve years ago.


A lot may have changed since the bolds I added. Early 90’s Sig pistols are generally considered at a sweet spot of production. Just saying.


Could be you're right.

Everybody gets to decide where they spend their money.

I might be able to be convinced to purchase a Tanfoglio at some point in the future. Who knows. Right now I don't have so much money that I'm willing to risk it without some reason that is compelling for me.
 
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To be fair, I’ve never owned one, so I’ve no dog in this one. But I would be curious to see how the 10mm Hunter performs.


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I bought a Limited some years ago, tight, well made, no issues other than crappy mags. My friend liked it so much he ordered one. It's a rattle trap compared to mine. Common for Tanfoglio, hit and miss.

They're hard and sometimes brittle, that would worry me in 10mm.

The most bizarre repeatable malfunction I've ever seen in any gun was in a 9mm Witness I owned.


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I have been shooting EAA Witness pistols for several decades.



Back in the day when EAA was in Dade County, the employees used to shoot IPSC at my Uncle's range. That is when I got this pair. One is chambered in 45ACP and one in 38 Super. Obviously these are not production guns, but they were and still are fantastic firearms.

I bought and sold several other off the shelf Witnesses over the decades including a Match Elite with top ends for both 45ACP and 10MM Auto. However among my favorites are my Limited Pro chambered for 10MM Auto and my Hunter which is also chambered for 10MM Auto





As you probably already know, the 10MM Auto is a GREAT cartridge, combine that with the Hunter's 6" long slide and you pick up some extra velocity and more muzzle energy. Not to mention the longer sight radius really helps aiming those longer shots


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This does not indict all EAA Witness pistols, but personally, I stay away. It's is an anecdotal cautionary tale.

I had a Witness Elite Match .45ACP before they put a rail on it. At the time, 2006, it was $400. Once I shot it, I thought it was the best deal going. My FFL also doesn't sell them anymore.

I loved that gun. Fantastic trigger, smooth, wicked accurate and fit my hand perfectly. However, one day at the range only about two months into owning it it failed to fire.

When I called EAA, they strongly warned me not to fire it and to send it to them, which I did under warranty. My FFL paid for the shipment to them. I had a couple of rather surly conversations with their gunsmith at the time, surly on his part.

In the end, they returned the pistol and had had to replace the barrel. To give them credit, they crowned it, fitted a couple of magazines (which had a tendency to drop free on their own, and had never fit wall at all), and did a trigger job, all for free.

However, I found it hard to trust a gun that had failed so significantly so soon after buying it. I appreciated the extras they did to enhance the gun, I assume in exchange for the failure, but sold it shortly after with full disclosure. The only time I shot it after getting it back was to verify it was fixed.

At the time a very well know gunsmith commented publicly in a post "it must be a special kind of hell working on Tanfoglio pistols all day". Perhaps I took that too much to heart, but gunsmithing is his expertise, not mine.

In addition, the frame was peening noticeably after not that many trips to the range.

Perhaps they have improved and it appears their more expensive guns are adored by some competitive shooters. Also, this was on the lower end of their product line. Still, I wouldn't choose to spend my money on another Witness even though the Hunter has appealed to me too.


Just curious but why did they have to replace the barrel and how did that prevent the pistol from firing a round?
 
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Originally posted by SIGWolf:
This does not indict all EAA Witness pistols, but personally, I stay away. It's is an anecdotal cautionary tale.

I had a Witness Elite Match .45ACP before they put a rail on it. At the time, 2006, it was $400. Once I shot it, I thought it was the best deal going. My FFL also doesn't sell them anymore.

I loved that gun. Fantastic trigger, smooth, wicked accurate and fit my hand perfectly. However, one day at the range only about two months into owning it it failed to fire.

When I called EAA, they strongly warned me not to fire it and to send it to them, which I did under warranty. My FFL paid for the shipment to them. I had a couple of rather surly conversations with their gunsmith at the time, surly on his part.

In the end, they returned the pistol and had had to replace the barrel. To give them credit, they crowned it, fitted a couple of magazines (which had a tendency to drop free on their own, and had never fit wall at all), and did a trigger job, all for free.

However, I found it hard to trust a gun that had failed so significantly so soon after buying it. I appreciated the extras they did to enhance the gun, I assume in exchange for the failure, but sold it shortly after with full disclosure. The only time I shot it after getting it back was to verify it was fixed.

At the time a very well know gunsmith commented publicly in a post "it must be a special kind of hell working on Tanfoglio pistols all day". Perhaps I took that too much to heart, but gunsmithing is his expertise, not mine.

In addition, the frame was peening noticeably after not that many trips to the range.

Perhaps they have improved and it appears their more expensive guns are adored by some competitive shooters. Also, this was on the lower end of their product line. Still, I wouldn't choose to spend my money on another Witness even though the Hunter has appealed to me too.


Just curious but why did they have to replace the barrel and how did that prevent the pistol from firing a round?


Good question. I could never get an explanation. The only person who knew was the gunsmith and he was not very inclined to discuss it and answer questions.

They replaced and fitted the new barrel. The other work, the barrel crown, trigger job and fitting the magazines was gratis and had nothing to do with the malfunction. That’s really all I could get out of them.

Perhaps they did other things that were not mentioned or noted in the explanation of work performed.

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My impression is that these are fragile, breakage-prone pistols. I wouldn't own any EAA product. Right or wrong, that's my impression of these firearms, and I would not have one.
 
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Love my 10mm Hunter. As you said, slide is on ball bearings and it has a fantastic factory trigger. Downfall is trying to find a holster for it.

No breakage prone incidents here. Just happy shooting and one dead piggy to its name.
 
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I really like the Tanfos I have owned. Current favorite is the 10mm Hunter. Solid and NO issues.

A few years ago there were a lot more 'horror' stories with the guns. I recall issues with the more basic 10MM frames cracking, 10 mm mag issues (old style), some fitment issues and most notorious were... issues with the 'surly gunsmith/ owner' of EAA the importer. If you ignore the interpersonal issues with the EAA staff nothing else was that bad

If you want a long slide 10 mm then the Hunter Longslide is a great choice


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They seem to be quite popular at the 10mm Firearms Forums. But I like my SIG 10mm.
 
 
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