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Originally posted by soggy_spinout:
Hmm. Didn't realize WWB use hard primers. Reliable operation, the bane of tuned guns. So it seems even WC isn't immune to pushing it too far.

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Originally posted by soggy_spinout:
Hmm. Didn't realize WWB use hard primers. Reliable operation, the bane of tuned guns. So it seems even WC isn't immune to pushing it too far.

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Originally posted by sprg03-A3:

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Originally posted by Mark71:
If given the option to own only one of these current WC Beretta's would you guys choose the Centurion or Brigadier Tactical? Always wanted a Beretta and it would mainly be used as a range toy.

Thanks

That's kind of a tough one. Had to think about it for a while. I will do my best to answer your question.

First off....Let's face it. They are very similar in features with just a couple of obvious differences. The Cen Tac's slide and barrel is 1/2 inch shorter which makes a surprising difference in how the pistol balances. Where he Brig is a bit muzzle heavy and tends to hang a bit better the Cen Tac is more balanced. Both have upgraded slides, the biggest advantage of which means the front sight is REPLACEABLE!! Just don't know why Beretta insists on having integral sights on such a large percentage of their various 92s. The Brig front sight is a tritium while the Cen Tac has the Hackathorn orange ring surrounding a tritium vial. The sight is excellent...really pops!! While the Cen Tac featured a shortened Vertec slide, which is thicker than the standard 92 slide, the Brig has the brigadier slide which is beefed up around the locking block as well as being thicker. Both slides are modified to address a largely non-existent problem, at least as I understand it, in that there are very few true report of broken 92 slides, particularly in early military pistols firing very hot ammo through pistols with slides made from sub-standard steel. Having said all that, while some don't like it IMHO the brigadier slide is just DAMN SEXY!! I really love the contours of the brig slide.

Beyond that there are few differences which are easily changed if you prefer. The Brig has a fluted steel guide rod there the Cen Tac has a non-fluted one, and the grips on it are noticeably thinner than on the Brig. Depends on your personal preference really.

Hold a Glock to my head I personally would marginally suggest the Brig especially as a range toy as it hangs better, making it easier to be more accurate with it, at least for me. If you really like the Hackathorn front sight, as I do, it is easily changed out because the sights aren't integral. Beyond that it is really a matter of personal preference. I would suggest getting the action tune done as it results in an outstanding trigger pull. Might just as well get the chrome silicon springs too for a few bucks more as they are supposed to last the life of a barrel...a hell of a lot more than I am going to shoot. I also really like the mag guide which is an add-on with the Brig while standard with the Cen Tac, as are two 17 round and one 20 round magazines as opposed to the three 15 rounders with the Brig.

Can't go wrong either way. I decided that, after selling my Elite IIs if I had the chance I would buy/build the Beretta I wanted. Bill Wilson beat me to it. Once I got the Brig Tac I was so damn impressed that I had to order the Cen Tac when it was introduced. Great pistols!!

Hope this helps. Feel free to ask anything else if you want, and let us know if/when you pull the trigger. BTW...looks like WC actually has Brig Tacs IN STOCK for the first time ever!

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The Cen Tac's slide and barrel is 1/2 inch shorter which makes a surprising difference in how the pistol balances. Where he Brig is a bit muzzle heavy and tends to hang a bit better the Cen Tac is more balanced. Both have upgraded slides

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Originally posted by 12131:

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The Cen Tac's slide and barrel is 1/2 inch shorter which makes a surprising difference in how the pistol balances. Where he Brig is a bit muzzle heavy and tends to hang a bit better the Cen Tac is more balanced. Both have upgraded slides

Didn't realize about the Centurion's shorter slide and barrel.

What kind of upgrade are you talking about. The Brig Tac obviously has the beefed up slide, but the Centurion, I see no difference from the regular slide.

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Originally posted by Mark71:
sprg03-A3,

Thanks for the detailed write up. I have been leaning towards the Brig Tac for a fun range gun and will be picking one up. I don't think one could really go wrong with either. The Cent Tac felt awesome at the local gun shop and the trigger was really nice even without the action tune.

Thanks again.

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Originally posted by ruger357:
Just picked up a like new non railed centurion that is going to wilson and then the Ernest Langdon

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Originally posted by 12131:
Seems that the Centurion is a little more expensive than the Brig Tac, both action tuned. Any ideas why?