P228 saga, I need help.

January 07, 2022, 01:17 PM

Hello all. I am in the middle of a huge dilemma and would like some thoughts. I am a huge fanatic of the West German and German Sig 228. I am getting older an my eyesight is getting bad. I can no longer see the sights well to shoot. I am thinking of putting on Sig Romeo 1 on one or two using the Sig mounting plates. Has ANYONE tried this crazy idea?
I DO NOT want to give my lovlies up and prefer not to go to striker fired Sigs. Please help me with your thoughts.

January 07, 2022, 01:20 PM

cslinger

Instead of milling for an optic have you tried a set of sights like the Trijicon HD's or the like that have a fairly large bright front sight usually in orange or green? Maybe even a set of big dots.

Seems like this would make for a cheaper, easier middle ground before you go through the effort and expense of "dotting" it.

Chris

January 07, 2022, 01:49 PM

Jeepster09

I am from the "old skool too" I tried a red dot and hated it. Instead for me, Trijicon HD with large orange dot works great.

January 07, 2022, 02:06 PM

2Adefender

If you must shoot with an optic sight- one possible solution is to obtain a P226 with an optic cut, and mount the Romeo. The P226 shoots every bit as nice as a P228, and it’s not striker fired.

A newer P226 would not be made in Germany or West Germany, but the debate on the differences has been beat into the ground a thousand times over.

January 07, 2022, 02:16 PM

YooperSigs

Check the Novaks Sight website. I just put a set of Novak hi-viz (especially for old eyes) on my Ruger SR 1911 and am quite happy. You can send them your slide and they will install the sights and return ship. They have a wide variety of wide rear notch sizes and front sight widths that may be of help to you.

January 07, 2022, 02:20 PM

Karpteach

quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
Instead of milling for an optic have you tried a set of sights like the Trijicon HD's or the like that have a fairly large bright front sight usually in orange or green? Maybe even a set of big dots.

Seems like this would make for a cheaper, easier middle ground before you go through the effort and expense of "dotting" it.

Chris

I’ve tried HD and Fiber Optic sights with very limited success. There is a Sig plate I could use for mounting Romeo sight. There would be no milling.

January 07, 2022, 03:40 PM

RobLew

I think we need more info from you on what you mean by " my eyesight is getting bad". Can you correct whatever deficiency with glasses/contacts? For me I can correct my distance vision but then it is very difficult to get a good front sight focus. So for me, a red dot works because my glasses keep both target and dot sharp.

Some more detail on your situation will help folks make better reccos on what may help.

And if turns out that an optical would work for you, there's this thread:

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/5050009784

January 07, 2022, 03:41 PM

92fstech

I don't think there's enough material on the folded steel slides to have them milled for an optic. The slide isn't a solid pice...its relatively thin steel folded into shape, with the breech block a separate piece that is pinned inside.

You could pick up a P229 with a milled stainless slide, or one of the new M11s (basically, a P229), and have that milled for an optic....or buy a legion or some other variant that is already milled for an optic. But I would not mill your P228, even if you can find a shop willing to try it.

The mounting plates that secure in place using the rear sight dovetail are an option, but not a good one in my experience.

January 07, 2022, 03:48 PM

RobLew

quote:
Originally posted by Karpteach:
quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
Instead of milling for an optic have you tried a set of sights like the Trijicon HD's or the like that have a fairly large bright front sight usually in orange or green? Maybe even a set of big dots.

Seems like this would make for a cheaper, easier middle ground before you go through the effort and expense of "dotting" it.

Chris

I’ve tried HD and Fiber Optic sights with very limited success. There is a Sig plate I could use for mounting Romeo sight. There would be no milling.

Not a fan of the mounting plates since you lose the rear sight. If the Sig plate is like the Delta Point plate I've seen, all the recoil force is concentrated on the little wedge that replaces the rear sight. Not great IMO.

January 07, 2022, 04:04 PM

Karpteach

quote:
Originally posted by RobLew:
quote:
Originally posted by Karpteach:
quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
Instead of milling for an optic have you tried a set of sights like the Trijicon HD's or the like that have a fairly large bright front sight usually in orange or green? Maybe even a set of big dots.

Seems like this would make for a cheaper, easier middle ground before you go through the effort and expense of "dotting" it.

Chris

I’ve tried HD and Fiber Optic sights with very limited success. There is a Sig plate I could use for mounting Romeo sight. There would be no milling.

Not a fan of the mounting plates since you lose the rear sight. If the Sig plate is like the Delta Point plate I've seen, all the recoil force is concentrated on the little wedge that replaces the rear sight. Not great IMO.

Thanks for your opinion. It’s much appreciated.

January 07, 2022, 04:07 PM

Karpteach

quote:
Originally posted by 92fstech:
I don't think there's enough material on the folded steel slides to have them milled for an optic. The slide isn't a solid pice...its relatively thin steel folded into shape, with the breech block a separate piece that is pinned inside.

You could pick up a P229 with a milled stainless slide, or one of the new M11s (basically, a P229), and have that milled for an optic....or buy a legion or some other variant that is already milled for an optic. But I would not mill your P228, even if you can find a shop willing to try it.

The mounting plates that secure in place using the rear sight dovetail are an option, but not a good one in my experience.

I would never harm my 228’s. Thank you for sharing your experience. This input is exactly what I’m looking for.

January 07, 2022, 04:32 PM

photohause

Tru-Glow work well for me.

January 07, 2022, 05:10 PM

hrcjon

you can't mill a folded slide. so just get a milled 229/9 slide and have it milled.
If that's too hard you can get a milled factory slide (229-1) and muck around with the locking blocks and internals and get that to work on your 228 frame.
But me I'd just go get a 229/226 with a milled slide and optic cuts and enjoy shooting.

January 07, 2022, 06:58 PM

rhpenn

CrimsonTrace on all my Sigs iincuding 4 P228

January 07, 2022, 08:26 PM

Karpteach

quote:
Originally posted by rhpenn:
CrimsonTrace on all my Sigs iincuding 4 P228

Thank you for your input. This is a nice consideration.

January 07, 2022, 11:52 PM

Austin228

If you wait and check you may find a deal on a P229 slide already with an optic cut from the factory

https://osagecountyguns.com/si...bly-w-romeo1pro.html

that is not a deal though because its like 550 but you get the idea

Also I own several triple serial W. German SIGs and German SIGs and tbh in the last few years I got a P229 Elite and P226 American made and all are good guns, minus I didn't need them to say Elite on the slide but whatever