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Why are “1st world” pistol optic options so thin or am I missing something?

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June 05, 2024, 05:30 PM
cslinger
Why are “1st world” pistol optic options so thin or am I missing something?
Seems like we have ….
Trijicon
EOTECH
Steiner
Aimpoint
Shield
Leupold

Am I missing any. Compared to like eleventy billion Chinese optics the pickings seem very thin. (I know most electro optics will use Chinese components. I know Holosun makes a good product I have 2, yes Virginia I am posting from a Chinese made IPhone). That said I would like to make my next optics purchase from a first world provider and I am looking at options.

Thanks much,
Chris


Take Care, Shoot Safe,
Chris
June 05, 2024, 06:56 PM
neex
They're just so expensive compared to the made in China stuff. I REALLY want an Aimpoint Micro, but the retail of the optic is like 69.23% of the price of the gun I want to put it on (which is also "first-world").
June 05, 2024, 08:30 PM
Lunasee
Good glass can be expensive. For example, my flat top Daniel Defense M4V4 was $1600. The Trijicon ACOG I put on top of it was $1100.
June 05, 2024, 11:34 PM
YVK
quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
That said I would like to make my next optics purchase from a first world provider and I am looking at options.

Chris


Do you want to set any additional criteria besides where it is made? Do you want a large screen competition / plinking oriented optic, do you want something smaller to carry, do you want a closed or open emitter optic, do you prefer a specific mounting solution, do you know which gun it is getting mounted on?
June 05, 2024, 11:44 PM
cslinger
Rmsc mounting
Carry gun sized (hellcat pro)
Not too hung up with open or closed emitter
Want lowest footprint possible.
Do not need a giant panoramic window.
Price is……well an object Big Grin but not a primary concern. I am not putting a grand into this but 500-600 wouldn’t be completely out of the question.

Mostly I am just noodling to see what is out there that is not Chinese. (Again I know, I know world economy, Chinese phone, etc. etc. ) I just want this to not be a Chinese optic if I can avoid it.


Take Care, Shoot Safe,
Chris
June 05, 2024, 11:53 PM
YVK
I think that with RSMc mounting you're pretty much limited to Shield products.

P.S. SIG's Romeo-X Compact uses it too and that's what I'd suggest. It is labeled as "Assembled in USA". I have one of those and have been reasonably impressed although my round count through it is very low.
June 06, 2024, 12:13 AM
SigLaw
quote:
Originally posted by YVK:
P.S. SIG's Romeo-X Compact uses it too and that's what I'd suggest. It is labeled as "Assembled in USA".


I understand that SIG has a very modern production facility in Oregon where the X-Compact and X-Pro are put together. I presume that the use of Chinese electronics prevents the moniker “made in the USA” but it sure beats the “designed in the USA, made in China” some products state.


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June 06, 2024, 03:53 AM
92fstech
Certain parts of Oregon are more politically communist these days than China, and infringe more directly on the rights of Americans than China ever has. If we're going to select products based solely on the politics of the locale of manufacture, it seems a bit disingenuous to pick one over the other.
June 06, 2024, 07:58 AM
kyoung
I have a Sig Pro1 on my FNX tactical and so far it has worked well, shooting 45acp. I got it on special for like $150 from Sig.


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P226 Tacops
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P320 X compact
June 06, 2024, 11:38 AM
cslinger
quote:
Certain parts of Oregon are more politically communist these days than China, and infringe more directly on the rights of Americans than China ever has.


HA! Fair enough.

Thanks all.


Take Care, Shoot Safe,
Chris
June 06, 2024, 12:32 PM
HRK
Well, if you are still on the fence, PSA has the Holosun 407 on sale for $199

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June 07, 2024, 05:06 AM
Broadside
quote:
Originally posted by neex:
They're just so expensive compared to the made in China stuff. I REALLY want an Aimpoint Micro, but the retail of the optic is like 69.23% of the price of the gun I want to put it on (which is also "first-world").


What is the price comparison of an optic made in China to a firearm made in Turkey or the Philippines?
June 08, 2024, 09:24 PM
DaBigBR
There may be a lot of random Chinese brands, but there are very few good ones.

I think the difference is that there is no way to make cheap junk that is actually cheap outside of China. The cost of manufacturing demands that the quality be there.