Shout-out to MtCowboy for the heads-up on this upcoming release...

Looks very cool, but I think they forgot to say "Game Changer"..?

Are the ridiculously heavy? I kinda Of want one. I had a PPQ before and liked it.

Weighs about the same as a 1911.

What's interesting is that these PPQs (including the competition model which was introduced first) are the first commercially available standard production locked breech, steel frame, service pistol caliber Walthers since the Walther HP, which is the P38. Relatively few HPs were available on the commercial market in Germany during WWII. So, we're talking about 75 years.
Postwar, Wather has offered some steel frame P38s, but these have been either commemoratives, or scarce, special order models such as the "All Steel Classic" P38, along with the high polish blue steel P38s which have been available in the US in years past from Earl's Repair.

The standard postwar P38 had an alloy frame, as did the models which replaced the P38- the P88/88C and P5/5C, followed by the polymer era Walther service pistols beginning with the P99.

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I might sell a P7 and buy one. I really like my polymer PPQ and you can obviously still get parts for them. Maybe I'll sell both my P7s and get a P210 too. We really live in a golden era for quality weapons.

What I'd like to see is a high polish blue model with walnut grips err grip.

And, of course, an M1 paddle release version would be too much to ask. Man, that would be sweet beyond sweet.

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And, of course, an M1 paddle release version would be too much to ask. Man, that would be sweet beyond sweet.

I couldn’t agree more. I love the paddle release on my P99AS, and I think the same on the Q4 would be ideal.
Sean

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Originally posted by parabellum:
...these PPQs (including the competition model which was introduced first) are the first commercially available standard production locked breech, service pistol caliber Walthers since the Walther HP, which is the P38.

There is something missing in this paragraph. HP,P38,P5 fully lock with a pivoting wedge, P88,P99 and PPQ are Browning/Webley, but they all have fully locked breeches as well.

OTD, my statement is correct. All the pistols I mentioned are locked breech pistols. That their designs are not identical has no bearing on the point I was making. It wasn't necessary for me to delve into design specifics in order to make my point.

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Oh, I see. I left out something, yes, which is essential to the point I was making.

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...these PPQs (including the competition model which was introduced first) are the first commercially available standard production locked breech, steel frame, service pistol caliber Walthers since the Walther HP, which is the P38.

Yes, now I makes sense. That was the missing point.

Thanks for pointing that out.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
What I'd like to see is a high polish blue model with walnut grips err grip.

And, of course, an M1 paddle release version would be too much to ask. Man, that would be sweet beyond sweet.

Agree on all fronts. I’ve asked MtCowboy to inquire if a M1 version of the Q4 SF might be possible by Walther, while he’s at SHOT. If not and I like the new SF model enough, I just might contact Walther’s custom shop to see what they can do.

Facinating pistol. It is the only steel frame striker I've seen. Went to the tube and watched a few videos, one of it being machined. Very high quality piece of work. The model with the dot sight is addictive wearing tall metallics.

So, it’s pretty much just a steel frame PPQ?

Was the P88 alloy framed? I had thought steel it I guess I was incorrect.

An M1 version with the earlier Paddle design of the P99 would be damn near perfect for me. Yes to the nice Walnut grip as well.

I love the cyclical nature of things. Everybody is used to polymer......bring back steel to give them a “NEW” experience.

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Originally posted by Dwill104:
So, it’s pretty much just a steel frame PPQ?

No, it’s not. The grip and what Walther refers to as a refined beaver tail are meant to improve comfort/handling over the PPQ. The takedown lever matches that of the Match version of the pistol. If you desire RMR optics, one version has adjustable sights on top of a removable plate. Of course, one could actually watch the imbedded video to find these out.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
Was the P88 alloy framed?

Yes, alloy. You can get the PP-series Walthers in a steel frame all day long, but when it comes to service pistols, Walther has not had a regular production locked breech pistol in a steel frame since 1945.

Wouldn't it be something to have the rail removed, a high polish blue applied and nicely figured Walnut grips? Is it possible to blue Tenifer-treated steel?

Oooh, hard chrome.

Polished blue with walnut grips... now that would be cool. Kind of old school meets new. I’d buy one for sure!

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Facinating pistol. It is the only steel frame striker I've seen. Went to the tube and watched a few videos, one of it being machined. Very high quality piece of work. The model with the dot sight is addictive wearing tall metallics.

There were a number of steel striker-fired pistols made in the first half of the 20th century, but I don't think any of them were ever particularly popular and there aren't a lot of them still around seeing regular use.

This all steel Q4 is really has me wanting one. My 2020 wishlist is for other manufacturers to offer steel framed versions of their popular polymer framed pistols.