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What is the practical difference between the 10mm, 44mag, and the 41 mag in a 4" revolver? For 2 or 4 legged critters. For someone who does not reload. | |||
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Even though Factory ammunition offerings have doubled or tripled in the last 6-8 years for the 10MM Auto cartridge and the 41 Magnum has superior aerodynamics of the three. Someone that does not reload is best off with the 44 Magnum ------------------------------------------------------------------ NRA Benefactor . . . Certified Instructor . . . Certified RSO SWCA 356TSW.com 45talk.com RacingPlanetUSA.Com | |||
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I know that revolvers in auto calibers typically headspace on the case mouth even with using moon clips and that .40s would drop into the chambers too far without moon clips but couldn't you still use .40 reasonably well in a 10mm revolver if using moon clips? -Dtech __________________________ "I've got a life to live, people to love, and a God to serve!" - sigmonkey "Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value." - Albert Einstein "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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No, Smith and Wesson revolvers designed to fire rimless cartridges are intended to head space on the moon clip. Not sure about Rugers It is true that probably 95% of Smith and Wessons will fire with the case mouth resting against the cylinder throat, but that is happenstance . . . not a design feature I re-chamber all of my 10MM Auto revolvers to accept the 10MM Magnum cartridge. That way they care capable of firing the 10MM Magnum, 10MM Auto and 40 S&W cartridges ------------------------------------------------------------------ NRA Benefactor . . . Certified Instructor . . . Certified RSO SWCA 356TSW.com 45talk.com RacingPlanetUSA.Com | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Don't know for sure about the other models, but that is the case with the blued 5" version when you're shooting .40 in it. | |||
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SOME S&W 25/625 will headspace on the case mouth and will fire without clips. Some do not. Neither my 625 or 325 will fire without clips. _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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Interesting and informative responses about the Smith. The Taurus Tracker .45 ACP I had some years ago definitely headspace on the case mouth as you could fire it with or without the moon clips and the clips were on the thinner side. I handled an SP101 9mm recently and noted pronounced, sharp shoulders in the chambers so it looks like the Rugers do too although appears the fit of the moon clip and shoulder are made to work together for a precise fit while still allowing it to being fired without the clips. If you have a cylinder chambered for a longer cartridge (10mm), it would make sense that it would headspace on the moon clip when using a shorter one regardless (.40), or in the cases where cylinders are custome cut for moon clips. -Dtech __________________________ "I've got a life to live, people to love, and a God to serve!" - sigmonkey "Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value." - Albert Einstein "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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I am not sure why I would not prefer my N frame 8 shot 357s over a 10 mm 6 shooter. Always makes a difference if one handloads of course. And yes 38 special versus 40. I will look at them regardless cause I like revolvers. | |||
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I am a HUGE fan of the 8 shot Model 27/327/627 family of 357 Magnum N-frames. I own the 27th production gun and the 357th production gun along with more than a dozen other examples of this leap forward in Magnum thinking       While holding less rounds, the 310/610 family of revolvers carries at least as powerful of a round or if you re-chamber from 10MM Auto to 10MM Magnum it carries a more powerful round, moon clips for rimless cartridges are MUCH thicker than moon clips for rimed cartridges, so reloads can be considerably faster with the 310/610 family of revolvers vs. the 27/327/627 family of revolvers     While I will probably never fire it, I need a 4" 610 to round things out. It is a shame they did not re-introduce the 5", that has a great feel ------------------------------------------------------------------ NRA Benefactor . . . Certified Instructor . . . Certified RSO SWCA 356TSW.com 45talk.com RacingPlanetUSA.Com | |||
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My shooting buddy who passed away a couple years ago had a Model 57 and a 610, as well as dozens more S&W models. He always took these two to the range along with a finely tuned chubby (model unknown) I never mastered the chubby or the 57, but shot the 610 amazingly well. So well, I put it on my wish list. I always wondered what happened to the 610 when he passed. His widow is in her 70's and has not been shooting in 15-20 years. His only son is in Maryland, so having guns is legally problematic and he would never just take a chance. So, I wonder..... | |||
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Doe anyone know if the cylinders on these new Model 610s are fluted or unfluted? | |||
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Nice pictures and collection. I have 3 of the N frame 357 8 shots one a stubby that is my colder weather carry gun. I love them agree the 5 inch would make the 610 more appealing | |||
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Perhaps it’s time to reach out to her / them and inquire?
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Fluted, per the website. Both models are up now. | |||
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Yes, I just did a google search a bit ago and saw that they were indeed fluted. Thank Il Cattivo. | |||
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I looked for a 610 for years and it was like searching for a unicorn. I bought a Ruger Willey Clapp in 10mm. I never found a P220 SA/DA in 10mm either. The Smith and Wesson revolver lock is akin to a pimple on the prom queens nose. Embarrassing. | |||
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In respect to the 10mm, I have both Glock 20 and SIG220 in 10mm as I love the round. What is the difference between a revolver in 10mm and semi auto in 10mm with recoil? Thanks! -------------------------------------------------------2/28/2015 ~ Rest in peace Dad. Lt Commander E.G.E. USN Love you. | |||
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Depends a lot on the revolver design & barrel length. S&W N Frame with a long barrel is more of a smooth single impulse rise of the end of the barrel. Short barrel N Frame is more of a single impulse snap & twist. Semi-automatic pistols are kind of in between, but with a long or double impulse. The recoil impulse is only slightly hotter than 357 Magnum and a little less than 41 Magnum. Regardless, 10mm is very manageable in a big frame revolver. | |||
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Depends on the revolver. My 3" Ruger GP100 chambers on the case mouth. 10mm can be fired without moon clips, extraction is a PITA. It will fire 40S&W with the Ruger moon clips. My daughter can deflate your daughter's soccer ball. | |||
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Exactly how I feel!!! P-220R, SP2340 P-225 , SP2022 P-226 , P-239 X2 P-228 , GSR P-229R, p-228R p-220 carry P-6,P-228R | |||
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