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He also finished .01 of a second behind the open handgun division and overall handgun winner K.C. Eusebio. Just goes to prove you don't need a tricked out race gun. Just a good pistol and a lot of talent. Congrats Mr. Norris. https://scsa.org/results/event/14895 Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | ||
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Well, there goes the rumor that the 47 lags behind the 17 in shootability.  | |||
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I'm sure trainers and end users who have been using the G47 for the last few years already knew the answer to that one.  I'm guessing most are happy with them. Any personal observations you care to share?Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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Kudos to Mr. Norris and the Glock 47. ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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Are there G47 slides available for sale? I have G19 and do not need another frame. | |||
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I believe so but they are expensive. It looks like new pistols are being parted out. Here is one example. https://blackphoenixcustoms.co...-slide-complete.html Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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Someone educate me . Why would a 47 shoot any different than a 17 ? Same amount of grip length and same slide length right ? | |||
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Glock 19 RSA. That is the “concern”. "Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man." | |||
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The G47 is a little over an ounce heavier because of the extra steel at the front of the slide. I can't say this makes a detectable difference. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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In my opinion B.J. is one of the nicest guys guys you could ever meet. Very down to earth and quiet guy. I met BJ in 2017 at the WSS Championship (he saw me watching their Super Squad and walked up and introduced himself to me and asked me what my name was and if I shot) and after talking with him for about 5 minutes he invited me to hang out with his Super Squad for the remainder of that morning - so I did - and had the opportunity to meet and visit with KC Eusebio, Max Michell, Doug Koenig, Jessie Harrison, and Shane Coley. I visited and talked with BJ multiple times over that four hour morning eight stage cycle. It was a day I will never forget and I got pictures will each of them…. B.J. Now works for the US Border Patrol Agency and said he loves his job (this was what he said last year when I visited again with him at a steel challenge match) before it all got crazy… | |||
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Actually, I have none. But, to hear some of my friends talk, the world is ending. We should be getting our first batch at work soon, and I’ll try to snag one and get some time on it. But, the difference between a 17 and 19 is minor. I can’t imagine the 47 being as “snappy” as some claim. | |||
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I've not shot, only handled the G47. That said I felt no real difference side by side with a G17. So weight or weight distribution shouldn't be a factor. Assuming reliability I would think the only thing that MIGHT be different would be the longevity of the recoil spring as its doing a tad more work????? "Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man." | |||
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Hopefully this isn't too much thread drift, but I'm wondering what the point of the 47 is. It's the same as the 17 except the frame is slightly shorter, but all you get for that is a gun that's slightly heavier. What's the purpose? | |||
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To allow parts interoperability and commonality between Gen 5 G19s, G45s, and G47s. The G47 was initially created in response to a solicitation from Customs and Border Protection agency for a handgun system that could be swapped around into three different gun configurations: full size, compact, and in-between "mid-size" format. The ability to swap the shorter slide of the mid-size/compact onto the larger grip of the full-size gun was a specific requirement of the contract. It's assumed that CBP's solicitation was originally written that way as an attempt to basically force the adoption of the P320, with its interchangeable full-size, compact, and carry configurations. But Glock was able to design the G47 to meet that requirement alongside their existing G19 and G45, and ended up winning the CBP contract. Here's the actual text of the relevant requirements from the CBP solicitation:
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Makes sense I suppose. I wonder if they'll keep making all the different models or pare it back. I guess since slides and frames are so interchangeable it doesn't much matter, or maybe the 17 has seen it's last generation. | |||
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The 17 MOS has been discontinued in favor of the G47. The 17 will remain just not the MOS version. ------------------------------------------------ 9/11/01 Never Forget "In valor there is hope" - Tacitus | |||
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I believe Glock is going all in on the G47. They will likely make small batches of G17’s for Californians and for LEO contracts that require a G17, but they want parts commonality and will likely push the G47 as their available full size pistol. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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Unless they come out with a "G47L" to replace the G34, and a similar G47-style option for the .40 and .357, Glock would still be faced with having to produce full-size frames and recoil springs for the G34 and G22/G31. So I can understand them cutting back on G17 production, since the G47 does most everything that the G17 does, but I don't think the G17 will go fully away. At least not before they come out with a total replacement for the G34/G22/G31/etc. too. | |||
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A few days ago, my son and I took a G19x, Gen3 G17 and the G47 down to my range so they could be fired back to back to back. As expected, the difference between the G19x and the full size guns was obvious. Much less obvious with the G17 and G47. They were really close. The conclusion was the G47 had a very slight edge. The test was hardly scientific however. The Gen3 G17 had the old style recoil assembly and the G47 had an optics plate and magwell added. Maybe someone like Jones will be able to give a better assessment once he gets his hands on one. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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