Now that sig has release the romeo compact enclosed model I'm thinking of putting one on my legion or tacops. I have never had a red dot before for a pistol they have 3 different models one is a 3 moa , 6 moa and a dot with a 320 moa circle around it. love them, hate them, don't waste your money? seems like it's the latest rage. I'm use to shooting with open sight and I'm happy with the results.

I resisted the red dot thing for a very long time. Briefly tried one on my shield +, then sold it because I didn’t feel like I gained much for hassle of cleaning the lens every day. Well I shot my Glock next to a buddies Glock with an optic with a shot timer. And apparently I’m quite a bit better with an optic. And I’m very confident with iron sights.
So I ended up getting an rmrcc for my 365 on an aftermarket slide milled for it and I’m very happy with it

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Originally posted by XLT:
Now that sig has release the romeo compact enclosed model I'm thinking of putting one on my legion or tacops. I have never had a red dot before for a pistol they have 3 different models one is a 3 moa , 6 moa and a dot with a 320 moa circle around it. love them, hate them, don't waste your money? seems like it's the latest rage. I'm use to shooting with open sight and I'm happy with the results.

Due to my age and vision difficulties, use of a dot has allowed me to not only achieve the speed and accuracy I had in my youth, it allows me to be 30 or 40 percent better. Game changer in my case.
Rule of thumb is small dot allows accuracy (especially at distance), larger dot is said to be faster. My astigmatism causes the dot to be twice the size as I view it, so 2-3 moa dot is my preferred.

Regardless of which dot you go with, it will take some getting used to. Going to require lots of practice to pickup the dot quickly. But I believe they are a net positive vs iron sights. I put a holosun eps carry on my 365.

Romeo zero on sale at sig web store

I've had a love, hate, hate and more hate relationship with the red dots. My EDC carry is either a Glock 43 with Pearce +1s or my Shadow Systems CR920 both having open sights.

But I have another Glock 43 that's been cut and has a Holosun 507 green dot and I kinda like it-seems a whole lot better to my eyes than the red ones.

Further, I picked up a little Hellcat with a green dot and 5 mags for a good price at my LGS. Got a couple holsters coming from a Forum member and they'll be here tomorrow, I think.

I sold my P365 which I liked somewhat, especially since adding the Wilson Grip Module, but not enough to keep it.

I haven't shot the Hellcat yet, but hope to do so tomorrow PM. I'll update this IF there's anything worth posting about.

Bob

I'm on average 30% better and faster shooter across the range of 0-25y that I see in competitions with a dot. I am probably not a huge amount better on the 0-7 ranges. So really depends on what you might be trying to accomplish. But based on a huge number of rounds of testing I prefer a 3 moa dot. Absolutely the 6moa is faster up close but it hurts you at longer ranges. I loved the circle around the dot when I shot steel plates as it matched the outline of the plate, but for general use its not an advantage.

I just picked up a Romeo X Pro, enclosed red dot for a P320 and so far, am very impressed with it.

Now up to around 750 rounds with my Echelon / Holosun setup. My ability to pick up the dot quickly is improving, but its not self defense quick yet.
Old dog, new trick!

My personal experience with the Romeo Zero has been poor. I grant it was the older "open" type, but it just didn't hold zero even for 20 - 30 foot shots. It was very picky about torque to attack, not working if you put too much torque on the screws. It became my primary reason to buy Fix-It Sticks, with the smaller torque sockets. The F_I_S are great but the Romeo Z was not.

I had it on a 364 Macro. I now have a set of Holoson's on it, with a green light. The torque values are much more rational, I prefer the green light, and I like the external battery compartment. Take it into your considerations.

I have a Holosun 507K X2 on my 365 Macro and I’m on the fence about it. Compared to the Trijicon RMR-06 that I have on my G17, the Holosun is a lot harder for me to consistently pickup the dot during presentation. The field of view on the micro dots is considerably smaller than on the regular size dots.

YMMV

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I'm a believer. Like it was said, vision issues made me try them. You do get what you pay for. A Romeo Zero failed, was replaced by Sig, and now lives on a 22. I like the Holosun (green for aging eyes and 6 moa) and have 2 Trijicons that are tremendous, but not cheap.

Mount them correctly with torque wrenches and get some training. I took a course from Sig which was good, but really understood what I was doing and how to get better when I took a class from Vigr Training (eastern PA, but he travels). I'm sure there are other good trainers out there too. it's money well spent in my opinion.

After many old forum posts about buying them and then taking them off for a few reasons, I skipped one

Plus finding a holster .

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EPS carry is very nice. Me and my wife both have on on our 365’s with the 2 moa red dot. We both do better with optics, but we shoot a lot. Our transition to an optic was very quick. We were running 6 MOA dots, but our observation is that the smaller 2 moa is better.