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Pistols that led to the 1911

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October 20, 2025, 08:26 PM
pbslinger
Pistols that led to the 1911
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/road-to-m1911/
October 21, 2025, 06:30 AM
egregore
I consider Browning's early 1900s designs - the ones that look like T-squares - to be the Preparations A through G or WD-1 through 39 (before they finally got it right with H and 40 respectively) of pistols.





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October 21, 2025, 10:23 AM
Jim Watson
Hard to take a piece seriously that says:
"With the M1900, Browning created the first locked-breech semi-auto pistol that would use short recoil operation."

What do you call Borchardt, Luger, and Mauser, then?
October 21, 2025, 12:34 PM
Lefty Sig
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Watson:
Hard to take a piece seriously that says:
"With the M1900, Browning created the first locked-breech semi-auto pistol that would use short recoil operation."

What do you call Borchardt, Luger, and Mauser, then?


Kraut Pistols?
October 22, 2025, 07:21 AM
egregore
quote:

Hard to take a piece seriously that says:
"With the M1900, Browning created the first locked-breech semi-auto pistol that would use short recoil operation."

And the FN (the actual manufacturer of his early designs) 1900 was a blowback, with the recoil spring above the barrel, in .32 ACP.





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October 22, 2025, 11:25 AM
mrprovy
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
And the FN (the actual manufacturer of his early designs) 1900 was a blowback, with the recoil spring above the barrel, in .32 ACP.


A 1900 has been on my short list since picking up this beauty in January (circa 1907)






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October 22, 2025, 06:18 PM
stylophiles
I was lucky to find a 1902 at a reasonable price, but I wish it was easier to find .38 Auto Somali could get a few rounds through it!



My example of the 1900 is a bit more humble, but at least I can shoot the thing…



And just cause… The 1903. Everyone should have one, it’s a classic .32


Bill R
October 22, 2025, 06:44 PM
stylophiles
If you want a “detailed” look at the development of the 1911, I can recommend C&Rsenals series of videos:

Colt 1900

Colt 1902

Colt 1903

Colt 1905

Colt 1907/1909

Colt 1909

Colt 1911

They have one on the 1911A1 that should be out soon, and for bonus material:

The Norwegian 1914!

Bill R
October 22, 2025, 09:36 PM
MikeinNC
Stylo,did you mean 38 Super? WRT the posts 2 up from mine.

Do you reload?




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October 22, 2025, 11:51 PM
stylophiles
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
Stylo,did you mean 38 Super? WRT the posts 2 up from mine.

Do you reload?


I was really just looking for a few magazines worth of .38 auto, I’m not going to shoot it a ton, just want to have the experience.

I have seen it’s “relatively” easy to load for using .38 Super brass, but that’s another set of dies… Maybe I will end up there, don’t know.

I had the same issue with my 1907:



Found some PPU 9mm Browning Long for like $28 a box and grabbed some, just so I could say I’ve shot the thing. I just don’t want to pay $3 per round for original.38 Auto to do the same with the 1902!

Bill R
October 23, 2025, 08:20 AM
Jim Watson
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
quote:

Hard to take a piece seriously that says:
"With the M1900, Browning created the first locked-breech semi-auto pistol that would use short recoil operation."

And the FN (the actual manufacturer of his early designs) 1900 was a blowback, with the recoil spring above the barrel, in .32 ACP.


Well, I do give him credit for talking about the Colt 1900 .38 Automatic, even though there were pre-1900 recoil operated Kraut Guns. There was actually a FN 1899 .32 that led up to the 1900 .32.
October 25, 2025, 01:36 PM
stiab
quote:
Originally posted by stylophiles:

I was really just looking for a few magazines worth of .38 auto, I’m not going to shoot it a ton, just want to have the experience.


Guess I have just been lucky, have found at least 2 dozen boxes of it over the last 20 years or so. Clarks Gun Shop in VA has several boxes now priced at $49.95 per, although that location is probably of no help for you. I find it at sportsmans shows, gun shows, and most recently at an estate auction. A guy bought 4 boxes of .38's, then I went up to him and informed him 2 were 38 Auto, got them from him for $5@. It's definitely out there. I chronographed some, but am traveling now and don't have the file with me. IIRC were about 1050.


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October 26, 2025, 10:45 AM
ruger357
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
I consider Browning's early 1900s designs - the ones that look like T-squares - to be the Preparations A through G or WD-1 through 39 (before they finally got it right with H and 40 respectively) of pistols.


Glock 16? Haha


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