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Hello,
I was given some grips that were supposed to have come from a P220.
They are plain and look like the stock grips that came on Sigs before they started putting the model name on them.
On the inside of the left grip there is 9 dot 2 and on the right grip there is a 9 dot 3. That is the only identifier on either grip.
These grip don't fit on either or my P220's which were manufactured in 1989 and 2004
The grips on these 2 guns are interchangeable.
Anyone have any idea what model p220 these might fit?
Thanks for the info.
Jim
 
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Not sure as to what they would have came off of, but they may be from a DAK, SAO or European model. The mainspring mechanicals have changed a bit over the years, but the grips are mostly the same. Can you get an idea as to where the interference is primarily located?



 
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If you can post photos - front and back - we should be able to ID them for you.
 
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Yeah, pics are worth a million words. Wink


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Hello,
Thanks for the quick replies.
I put a couple of pictures on Google Photo.
Hope it works.
 
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I'll try again.

The grips don't clear the main spring on the 2 P220's mentioned in the first post.

https://photos.google.com/shar...VHFwel8zRjdNUjlwaVR3

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When the P220 originally was released, it had a European style magazine release. Instead of utilizing various assemblies, the tension from the mainspring held the mag release in place. Years down the road, they offered an American style mag release and kept the mainspring assembly the same.

The current style P220s have a revised mainspring architecture with a shorter mainspring and a raised mainspring seat:



If your mainspring seat looks like this one, additional clearance is required for this design that was not incorporated into the original grip design.

The grips were likely made for the prior version with the longer spring and a mainspring seat that looks like this:



FWIW, the images that you are trying to display are stored on the Google server that is password protected. That is my guess as to why they aren't being displayed at this time.

I hope this helps.



 
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OP's 1989 gun should have the original metal mainspring seat, and the '92/'93 grips should fit. That they don't fit tells me that someone changed to the newer plastic seat that .38supersig posted above. This is supported by the fact that the grips on OP's 1989 and 2004 are interchangeable.

2004 gun has the long plastic seat as original.


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Thanks for the responses.

The link for the pictures works now.

I checked with a friend who owns a well used P220 which was manufactured in the mid 90's. Same configuration (de-cocker, double action/ single action). These grip fit his gun while they don't fit on one manufactured in 1989 or one manufactured in 2004.

Any idea of when they revised the mainspring architecture?



The left grip is notched for a mag release.
 
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I suspect you have a mismatched set of P220 grips - with the left grip manufactured in September 1992 and the right grip manufactured sometime later in 1993 (I can't make out the production code). In early 1993, at serial number G 211299 (KD code), SIG redesigned the receiver of the P220 to give it more strength. To accommodate this modification, small internal changes to the grip panels were required. In my experience, these two grip varieties are not interchangeable without slight modification. In fact, I am somewhat surprised you are able to interchange the same set of grips between your 1989 and 2004 examples. Attached is a "before & after" photo illustrating the internal changes made to the left P220 grip panel at serial numner G 211299. Do either of the grip panels in question fit your pre G 211299 (1989) pistol? I'm willing to bet the 1992 dated left panel fits and the 1993 dated right panel does not. Let us know. Thanks!

 
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Initially I thought that they might be mismatched but after careful looking they appear to be matched as the dimensions and form are consistent on each grip.

Each grip lines up with the screw holes. The top screw hole lies flat on the handle and can be snugged down while the lower screw does not fit on the handle. This is consistent with each grip. The widest point of the bottom of the left grip is 2.1” while the 1989 grip is 2.0”. On the right grip it is 2.07” and 2.0” respectively.

This would be consistent with the redesigned receiver and the mainspring for the newer models.

I really appreciate the information that you all have provided.

Now the question remains regarding my P220 with the rail. The serial number being G363xxx. I guessed based on the forum info that it was manufactured in 2005 however these larger grips don’t fit on it while the grips from the 1989 pistol fit it.
https://photos.google.com/shar...VHFwel8zRjdNUjlwaVR3
Thanks again for your responses.
Jim
 
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