Admiring my German P210 Legend, I realized that I never considered what its finish is. Is it nitron or something else? I have one of the black ones, not the silver ones.

I know the old Swiss P210s are blued carbon steel for the frame and slide. The new American P210s are stainless slide and stainless frame with the nitron finish.

Which leads me to another question about my German P210 Legend: what material are the frame, slide, and barrel? stainless or carbon steel?

Carbon and that’s a much better material for tight fitted guns like the Swiss and German P210, especially Swiss.

It's arrived but I don't have permissions to post pics

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Originally posted by King of Useless Knowledge:
It's arrived but I don't have permissions to post pics

You don't need permissions to post pics. You just need a photo hosting site. Upload your pics there, then you can post them here.

https://imgur.com/eKkkU2P

Your new 210 is a beauty. Very clean looking with the fixed sight, no FCS and service style grip.

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Originally posted by bac1023:
Carbon and that’s a much better material for tight fitted guns ....

Why is that?

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Originally posted by rock185:
Your new 210 is a beauty. Very clean looking with the fixed sight, no FCS and service style grip.

Thanks its been years since I posted pics anywhere so I need to find something better than the nightmare of photo bucket. Cant seem to get the URL to paste on this new thing just the goofy link

Looks good, please post a review after some range time.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by bac1023:
Carbon and that’s a much better material for tight fitted guns ....

Why is that?

He’s probably saying that because carbon steel, unlike SS, is a free machining (non-galling) metal. To avoid the galling problem, SS pistol manufacturers make the frame and slides with different hardnesses.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by bac1023:
Carbon and that’s a much better material for tight fitted guns ....

Why is that?

It's not. Tolerances are a matter of the design, the milling equippment, the tools and the jig, not the steel.
Modern manufacturing technologies are much more advanced then what the average shooter/collector are believing to be the standard. It is about time to say goodby to the believe of tolerances being a random size that id controlled with gauges.
Also, if galling was a problem, one should really ask if the manufacturer had its technology under control or if an overly entusiastc geek was interpreting internet knowledge into somehing he has not seen before. In most cases it's the latter one of the two.

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Have I mentioned it has a 3 lbs 7.9 oz trigger
https://imgur.com/mtNu7H3

I just bought a 210A Standard, everything King said, much more accurate than I am.
Does anyone make (affordable) grips for these? Will the Hogue grips for the Target fit? I have smaller hands/fingers & would like to try sanding a set of grips down to a smaller profile & don't want to use the ones that came with the pistol.
Thanks.

If you find other grips that fit let us know. The wood ones are nice but I wouldn't be against trying something G10 or thinner on it

King, looking, & talking, with Hogue on their P210A wood grips. They fit either the target or standard (same frame). Not cheap, but thinking of getting their grips & reducing the profile for a smaller grip. Haven't found anything smaller, or other material than wood.
Oh well, the "bleeding edge", if the pistol becomes popular we'll probably have 10-20 choices in 2-4 years.

Also looking at the EGW rear sight mount for a red dot. Had one on a Colt/Walther 1911 .22 that worked very well.
Have to find out if the rear sight cut is the same as the target model.

I spoke with Hogue & bought one of their smooth hardwood grips. In the process of sanding it down now & hopefully this will allow me to properly position my hand, otherwise the p210 goes down the road & I'm back to 1911's.

*** For anyone thinking about purchasing a p210 (or any other "unknown" pistol) if you have smaller hands I would look at one hands on before buying, I just learned my lesson <grin>.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by bac1023:
Carbon and that’s a much better material for tight fitted guns ....

Why is that?

It’s a harder material and better suited for the application.

There’s a reason why 1911 manufacturers like Les Baer won’t even offer their best accuracy packages on stainless guns.

I believe both of the US P210's can accept each other's grips. You might try the the factory target grips on your gun. They're bigger overall, true, but they are much more sculpted[/QUOTE]

Thanks, but I'll see how the one I'm sanding turns out. Don't know about the target but Hogue makes the grip for the Standard. I'm not buying anything more without some hands on.

I've sanded down the Hogue grips to where I'm able to get a good grip & able to press the trigger properly. Most of the wood was removed from the "hump" on the rear & some from both side panels. Will probably use tongue oil eventually but want to shoot it some more & do some light sanding as I think necessary.
Not a good explanation but anyone encountering the same problem can reduce grip size, either original or after market, with careful sanding.