I wonder if Sig s going to send it back to me with the same flawed striker design. Even when I call the CS person is saying "bad batch of Strikers" blah blah...I broke 2 strikers in 1000 rounds the design is flawed. Seriously, do I really need to buy a Lightning Strike to fix their issue??

Ouch, what date was it born?

It’s fine, it was a small batch of strikers. Don’t pay attention to the massive primer drag. You’re clearly a Russian bot.

Sarcasm aside, the gun is flawed man. There is no way it will hold up long term with striker drag like the 365 has.

You’re stressing the tip of the striker every time you fire off a round. That’s why I sold mine.

Even a stainless steel striker won’t eliminate the stress. It will simply last longer before it too fails.

I’m just keeping my fingers crossed that S&W and/or Glock showcase their version at shot in a couple months.

Born on is March 10...first striker broke in May and again in October. Both during dry fire w snap
Caps

Mine was born on Jan 20th, 2000+ rds fired and its doing just fine.....

ine born late august 2018 -1500 rds and no issues.I think you are part of a very small percent that has just had some bad luck but don't give up on it,the 365 in my eyes is a great edc.

This seems to be just one of a few issues SIG has had with the P365.
But, for every complaint video or post there are now 6 or more positive videos/posts.
I honestly do not know what to believe. I feel the OP is not just making this up. But, I did just buy a new 365 the other day (the LGS sold 2 more of them at the same time I was buying.)

I feel SIG will stand behind them and I for one am not worried.

Lateck,

6800 hundred rounds thru mine zero issues 7-1 build date. I shoot it every weekend just cant put it down, thank god I reload $$

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But, for every complaint video or post there are now 6 or more positive videos/posts.I honestly do not know what to believe.

If you check out the poll in this forum where 133 people responded, 75% of the P365 have no issues, the rest...

I think it speaks for itself.

But, but , but, Sig insist that only 0.0000000058 percent of the strikers were bad. Crock of shit. Defective ass gun, with defective ass strikers. Sell that shit and get a real gun.

Bite the bullet, replace the striker with one by Lightening Strike and move on with your life. Or, get a second fix and sell it.

No, you shouldn't have to do that, and I would not be happy if it were me, but that's what I would do.

https://shop.lspi.com/Steel-St...-Pistols-LS-7365.htm

I have a p365 as well but haven't put a $hit-ton of rounds through it. It has a born date of June 2018. No striker break yet. It would be interesting to know why some break and some don't other than defective parts. If 75% are okay (which is just the sampling here) and SIG has had so few returns, I don't think it's fair to say the gun is seriously flawed on the whole.

I've had a couple of guns I really liked and wanted to love, but had issues, returned them a couple of times to be fixed, but decided life was too short to mess with them. Got them fixed and sold them with disclosure of the repairs. One of them I later bought a newer version which had required work for the previous owner, and did require work on my part to become 100%.

Anyway, that is what I would do.

Now I'm starting to see that Glock strikers are superior. I never really thought about it before, but they really do minimize primer drag. Why doesn't Sig try something similar?

Thing is, the poster above experienced both his broken strikers with dry firing on snap-caps. Anybody get a lot of "primer drag" on snap-caps?

It's easy to look at the soft primer and say that clearly that's why the striker breaks, but that would be irresponsible without a close examination of the striker, as well. It certainly seems that the primer could experience stress from the "drag," but without actually establishing the relationship and determining where the strikers break, it's little more than speculative guesswork.

It's established that the strikers break; no question about it. They don't all break. No question about it. Sig swears it's not a problem and that an infinitesimal number break, no question about it. We hear it only happens to others and that it's all rumor; which isn't true. Numerous posters have reported their own firearms breaking right here on Sigforum. Numerous posters say this isn't true, but apparently close their eyes to the fact. Some posters fire thousands of rounds without breakage, also a fact.

I'm interested in the LSI striker. However, I'd need to know more, particularly about the weight and how that varies from factory. I'd like to know how to they came to the two metal decisions they made (two were announced here), and why those, testing results, determinations as to why the breaks occurred, etc. Could the new striker or metal introduce unintended consequences? These are things I can't answer, but should be.

Several sig reps or highly placed people associated with Sig have come on here to address this issue, and it's been clear that their comments were untrue.

I didn't buy just one P365, which is usually the case when a firearm interests me. I bought several, and in the case of the P365, I took a wait-and-see attitude; shoot it, play with it, wait and see. The failures reported first hand by members here have included repeated failures, being sent back more than once, and have occurred as high as 2,000 round count; they've been fairly recent, and early purchases, and haven't all involved early purchases; they've also involved replacement strikers by Sig: it's not just a "bad batch." Sig's account is bullshit.

Mine haven't failed, yet. We'll see. My personal opinion is that Sig came up with an excellent design that does appear to have some flaws. I can't speak for anyone else's P365's but my own. they may break eventually; we'll see. Thus far, they're good, and I hope they continue that way. I may end up ordering one of the LSI strikers to beat the hell out of the product in a P365 and see, which makes sense. I'm sure LSI probably did the same with their own.

For a small, concealable pistol, the P365 is a great design; I think the striker may be one of its weaker points, but I'm not convinced it's the design. If it were, I think we'd see a lot more. I'm not convinced it's a bad batch. Otherwise we'd not be seeing the failures spread out as we do, and Sig could have fixed it by recalling the batch or an "upgrade," which Sig has refused to do. Sig redesigned the striker, but has been replacing strikers with both the old and new styles, and both have broken. It may be a combination of the. metal, design, or possibly something else; perhaps the machining of individual pistols, perhaps a bit more play or looser or tighter tolerance at the breech face or striker tip or striker channel; I can't say, and at this stage it appears that no one else can, either.

Time will tell.

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Originally posted by esdunbar:
It’s fine, it was a small batch of strikers. Don’t pay attention to the massive primer drag. You’re clearly a Russian bot.

Sarcasm aside, the gun is flawed man. There is no way it will hold up long term with striker drag like the 365 has.

You’re stressing the tip of the striker every time you fire off a round. That’s why I sold mine.

Even a stainless steel striker won’t eliminate the stress. It will simply last longer before it too fails.

I’m just keeping my fingers crossed that S&W and/or Glock showcase their version at shot in a couple months.

^^^this right here. Sig has a great idea but shit the bed with it. Making the mags so expensive was just icing on the cake too. Eventually somebody else will come up with something very close that will work. I never thought I’d ever see the day that I didn’t trust a sig..

Nobody can possibly look at the pics of the primer drag and not see there is a problem. A mechanical device can't work that way for long. Clearly there is a significantly large percentage of pistols with a problem to show this is a real concern. If not a general design flaw, maybe a manufacturing problem or a materials issue.

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
Nobody can possibly look at the pics of the primer drag and not see there is a problem. A mechanical device can't work that way for long. Clearly there is a significantly large percentage of pistols with a problem to show this is a real concern. If not a general design flaw, maybe a manufacturing problem or a materials issue.

Other sub/micro-compact pistols, such as the G43 and Shield display primer drag. Are they generally flawed too?

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Originally posted by timrh23: Both during dry fire w snap Caps

What are you using for a snap cap?

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Originally posted by iron chef:

Other sub/micro-compact pistols, such as the G43 and Shield display primer drag. Are they generally flawed too?

My G43 does not exhibit this, and has been without problem for many thousands of rounds.

My original .40 shield didn't exhibit this characteristic. The frame did crack and s&w did refuse to warranty it, but that's another matter.

My 9mm Shield doesn't exhibit this characteristic, either.

I've wondered if there isn't too much dwell time with the striker extended through the breech face in the P365. It's only got one function; to punch the primer; any time beyond that necessary to dent the primer is unneeded, and leaves the primer exposed. I've wondered if a means of moving the striker back faster (retracting the striker) might not be in order.

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Originally posted by iron chef:

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
Nobody can possibly look at the pics of the primer drag and not see there is a problem. A mechanical device can't work that way for long. Clearly there is a significantly large percentage of pistols with a problem to show this is a real concern. If not a general design flaw, maybe a manufacturing problem or a materials issue.

Other sub/micro-compact pistols, such as the G43 and Shield display primer drag. Are they generally flawed too?

That’s total BS sir. I own a Shiled and a G43 (a G42 as well). None of them show any primer drag.

Please stop giving folks bad information. This isn’t even debatable, you’re flat out wrong. You’re now carrying water for Sig and saying the same lies they tried to start in order to defend their flawed gun. They only looked silly when they tried to say this when folks first expressed concern about the obvious primer drag issue on the 365.

Point of fact, in my entire life of shooting, I have never once seen a gun with primer drag as sever as the 365 has. In this area, it is truly in a class by itself.

My G43 does not exhibit this at all either.