Have an older p220 thats a safe queen because its a folded slide. Best sigs ever made IMHO. Havent shot it much because Im afraid of not being able to find replacement parts like breech blocks/parts and roll pins. Im also considering buying another older p220 (in great shape) but the same potential problem makes me hesitate.

Can parts still be found?

Also, Ive heard that sig will fit a moderm 1pc slide to your frame if the folded slide takes a dump. Still true?

You'd have to shoot a lot to need those parts. I've been competing in IPSC with a 1994 226 for over ten year and all I've replaced are recoil springs. Your idea is smart. Have a complete extra pistol so you can keep going. I have a 1998 226 backing up my 1994. And I have three 228s in case one breaks.

^^^ Yeah, just look at the parts replacement schedule in >>this thread<< by sigfreund, and you'll realize that very few parts are in need of replacing with great regularity, unless you're a very high volume shooter. I'd say, the most important ones to have on hands are the recoil spring and the breech block roll pins.

quote:

Barrel: If the pistol exhibits keyholing or unacceptable accuracy.
Decocking lever spring: 10,000
Extractor: 20,000
Extractor spring: 20,000
Firing pin: 20,000
Firing pin spring: 20,000
Magazine spring: When magazine fails to lock the slide open. *
Recoil spring: 5,000 †
Roll pins for breechblock retention (pins, HD): 5000 ‡
Safety lock spring: 20,000
Slide catch lever and spring: 10,000 §
Takedown lever: 20,000
Trigger bar spring: 10,000

Mainspring (hammer spring): SIG SAUER evidently makes no formal recommendation about the mainspring, but lbj was told by customer service that guns with 40,000 rounds are still igniting their ammunition with the original spring. If ignition problems do develop and cannot be determined to be due to other reasons, the obvious course would be to try a new mainspring.

Parts kit.
https://www.midwestgunworks.co...gwi/prod/220-45-PKIT
They have quite a bit of Sig parts.

Or for $150 send to SIG and they will replace all the springs inspect the gun and even install new X-ray sights. So they must have a source for the springs for the out of production guns

Or if you acquire a new/used old gun of unknown round count, send her off for service and spa treatment and start fresh.

Wolff stocks Sig springs. Typically order J Frame spring kits from them--same springs as the big boys.
https://www.gunsprings.com/SIG.../P220/cID1/mID4/dID6

There are a couple of POTENTIAL backup sources in addition to the ones already mentioned, although I have a hard time arguing with simply sending it in for a full service (and inspection, so you'll get a heads up if something fundamental really needs to be replaced).

The supply isn't regular, but Numrich may have the parts you want. Other parts will occassionally pop up on Gunbroker.

Consumeable parts kits are available at the moment from Top Gun Supply and on Gunbroker.

There's at least one .45 locking block on Gunbroker if you really need one - no connection to seller, so I can't tell you anything about how good a shape the part's in. If you want a non-.45 locking block, there are still some at Numrich. I wound up getting one for a conversion project, and it seems to have been in great shape.

FWIW, buy the second P220 with confidence.

Robertson Trading Post has extractors for folded slide Sigs.

I've always said the best spare parts kit is a second, or third gun. Then you can just use the backup without worrying about downtime or test firing while you get it fixed

For some guns it makes sense to have certain parts (lock block for berettas for example, or general wear parts like extractors, or springs, etc). But most good service pistols you just can't guess which part is going to break. The most common broken thing I've seen is a frame.

In the sig armorers class they just reused the roll pins (this was during the time of folded slides) as they were just class guns but they said the pins would last multiple diaassembly/reassembly and still work.

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Originally posted by k:
In the sig armorers class they just reused the roll pins (this was during the time of folded slides) as they were just class guns but they said the pins would last multiple diaassembly/reassembly and still work.

Sure, "still work", but they wouldn't recommend, in writing, to reuse those roll pins, once the slide is completely disassembled. The recommendation is to always replace them.

It wasn't a recommendation, I just said what they did in the class with class guns, mostly to say that the sig parts seem pretty tough

k

When I took the armors course we disassembled the guns put all the parts in a bin in the center of the table and later had to grab the parts we needed from the bin. Not a chance in the world these guns were ever going to be shot. Based on personal experience of shooting a folded slide gun competitively many many years ago the parts you need are the recoil spring, the roll pins (most common problem), the firing pin and the extractor. This over roughly 100K rounds of competitive shooting at that time.

Sig finally listened to my feedback and started offering P220 slide assemblies.

Out of stock now but using one of these lets you sidestep finding roll pins, internal extractors, etc.

https://www.sigsauer.com/p220-...bly-optic-ready.html

I picked up a couple myself to retrofit to some older 220s for optics. They even offer the 10mm version.

For example, the W. German Police P6 pistols other than some having finish wear were well maintained and were not heavily fired during their years in service. I haven't heard any reliability issues re the P6s. Designed for police/military use the folded slide Sigs were as durable as any modern pistol.