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Hi all, Was going to pick up a 2.0 full size in 9mm until I found a FDE SP2022 in 9mm. Had an older SP2022 in black and loved it, but sold it to fund a P220. Miss it, and would own it again, but have heard the 2.0 shoots flat and accurate, and the ones I've held feel good in my hand. Curious to hear from those who have owned/shot both the 2.0 and SP2022 in 9mm with regard to recoil impulse, accuracy, and flat-shooting qualities compared. Thanks in advance. ________________ tempus edax rerum | ||
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I only have the SIG Pro. I might suggest you consider the M&P now and later on search for a German made version sigpro (GB 739914826 as an example). It's difficult to compare anything to the sp2022. Good hunting. | |||
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I have both and while the SP2022 is a very good pistol (I like it better than any of the P320s I've tried), the M2.0 9mm 4.25" is a better all-around pistol. The 2022 is an accurate, reliable pistol, but in my experience, it makes you work harder to wring out the potential accuracy it offers, whereas the M&P seems much more forgiving, is impressively accurate, has the better trigger, and just feels better in the hand to me. The mags also tend to be cheaper for the M&P and it offers more customization options too for those that like to tinker. As with all opinions and experience, YMMV. -Dtech __________________________ "I've got a life to live, people to love, and a God to serve!" - sigmonkey "Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value." - Albert Einstein "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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You really should try out an M&P 2.0 and see how it works for you. I tried an M&P 2.0 but like the SP2022 better an shoot it better but I think that is mainly because the SP2022 fits my hand better as I found the trigger reach too short for me on the M&P 2.0 especially with it breaking so far back. Both are terrific pistols and lot may also have to do if you favor striker fired or hammer fired. | |||
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I have shot both. While I think the 2.0 is a huge improvement over the older design, I would still recommend the SP2022. | |||
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I have both. I like both. I think Dtech nailed it in his description. Risk the consequences of honesty... | |||
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Huge 2.0 and Pro fan here (but you guys already knew that). Dtech did in fact nail it right down to the 2022 being a much better pistol than the 320. I shot IDPA last season with the 2022. I had to work a little harder to obtain a certain level of performance. And it had zero to do with DA/SA versus striker, and everything to do with the gun's handling performance. I didn't hardly touch a gun in practice for most of December and into January, pick up the 2.0..... I absolutely nailed all of demo's in the class in FL. I shot the IDPA classifier yesterday and shot Master with little effort. The 2.0 is so easy to shoot. Lots of choices on accessories and upgrades. The 2.0 wins in a walk. | |||
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As some of those here can atest, the 2022 isnt a 92FS. But it is for sure sweeter, to me atleast, than any M&P on the market that isnt custom. Base versus Base, the 2022 wins to me. However, I got one for about 450, and I see they are now at 650. Used guns deserve a home too | |||
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While I like the 2023 and think it was a great, and under appreciated, gun in its day, I find the 2.0 to be in a different league. It shoots much, much flatter and it’s not really even debatable. | |||
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Very interesting. Thank you all for your replies! I appreciate you taking the time to help elucidate things for me. The part about the 2022 making you work harder to get the same level of accuracy as the 2.0 has a certain ring of truth, as I remember having surprising yet inconsistent bouts of incredible shooting with my 2022. However, with other guns (specifically P-Series SIGs) I have more consistent levels of accuracy. This facet alone gives me pause about the 2022, as much as I remember liking it and regretting choosing to sell it. That said, I've not shot a 2.0. I'll have to see if the Clackamas range has one to rent, as while the 2.0s I've held have all felt VERY good in hand and have pointed well for me, the proof is in the shooting. And yes, in a perfect world, I'd grab a 2.0 and 2022, but my wife actually really wants to own (and carry!) a Glock 42, so I'm happy to oblige her with that purchase before my own. Thanks again for the input. We'll see where I land. ________________ tempus edax rerum | |||
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Held both today. The DA trigger on the SP2022 was beau-ti-ful. Felt comfortable to hold...better than I recalled. The M&P 2.0 was comfy as well and pointed just right. Felt good in the hand, and while the trigger had a terrible take-up (think crunchy like the "break" of a crappy, stock AR trigger), the break was clean. I'll see if the local range has any of these for me to test under fire. ________________ tempus edax rerum | |||
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It should not be too hard to find a range that has one to rent. If you have not tried the Gen 5 Glock 17 you might want to give that a try too unless you just don't like Glocks. I really liked shooting it and it fit my hand/trigger reach much better than the M&P 2.0 but no doubt it is more expensive. Good luck! | |||
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grumpy1 read my mind. I was actually going to suggest you look at the Gen 5 Glocks as well in my original post but figured I'd see what your hands-on experience with the M2.0 was like first. I personally keep going back and forth between my Gen 5 G19/G17 and the M2.0 as my go-to pistols when I hit the range lately and couldn't be happier with any of these so they are definitely worth a look as well. As for the M2.0 trigger, the take-up friction can vary slightly between examples when new, but the ones I've tried all break pretty much the same. The take-up travel does get smoother once you lube the trigger friction points a little and put a few boxes of ammo through it but when you're shooting, you generally are only going to release the trigger far enough for the reset to engage so it will be much shorter in practice. Keep in mind since it is a hinged trigger you want to engage the whole curve of the trigger at the same time as much as possible with your finger and not try to start squeezing more at the top and then letting your finger slide down the hinged portion further into the pull because you might actually be causing the "crunchy" feeling by the trigger safety edge on the back side of the trigger catching or dragging on the inside of the trigger guard and frame as you are pulling it. As with most triggers, they get even better with a little use. And yes...the double action on the 2022 is pretty nice. -Dtech __________________________ "I've got a life to live, people to love, and a God to serve!" - sigmonkey "Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value." - Albert Einstein "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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Thanks guys. Yeah, I should probably give the Gen 5 a chance even though my heart says nope. Maybe I'll see if the range has some to rent. I was trying to stay away from Glock as I have one for work but that's it...not a fan of the ergos at all, but am a fan of Glocks functionality, for sure. ________________ tempus edax rerum | |||
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Oh, yeah! If Glocks arent ruled out I would put them over the 2.0 as well. Between the 2022 and the Glock 19, its a toss up. G19 will conceal much easier. | |||
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I find the the Glocks and the 2.0’s to be very similar...except the 2.0 has a far, far more comfortable grip. That’s what sold me on the 2.0. It’s differnt even from the 1.0. Unless you have e huge hands, the 2.0 is the way to go imo. The double stack .45 2.0 full-size is still better feeling than a G19 for my hands. | |||
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