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Walther suspending PP/PPK
November 27, 2025, 07:26 PM
GreymannWalther suspending PP/PPK
From the Walther website:
Walther Suspends Production of the PPK®, PPK/S®, and PP® Legacy Products
A Legendary Era Comes to a Close as the Iconic Line Begins a Multi-Year Modernization Journey.
Walther Arms, Inc. today announces the formal multi-year pause of production for its legendary PPK®, PPK/S®, and PP® legacy handgun lines—marking the end of an era for some of the most iconic firearms in history.
For nearly a century, the Walther PP-series pistols have stood as global symbols of craftsmanship, elegance, and reliability. Immortalized in popular culture and revered by firearm enthusiasts worldwide, these handguns have set the standard for timeless design and performance. Today, Walther honors that legacy while clearing the path for the next evolution.
As part of Walther’s long-term product vision, the PPK®, PPK/S®, and PP® will now enter a multi-year reengineering and modernization program. This initiative aims to enhance performance, integrate advanced manufacturing technologies, and elevate the user experience—all while preserving the iconic look, feel, and spirit that have defined these pistols for generations.
“This is not the end of the PPK story,” said Tyler Weigel, VP Sales of Walther Arms, “It’s the beginning of a new chapter. Our goal is to honor the heritage of these iconic firearms by bringing them into the future without compromising what made them classics.”
https://waltherarms.com/journa...pp-r-legacy-products.
November 27, 2025, 07:29 PM
12131I’m surprised they lasted this long.
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November 27, 2025, 07:32 PM
rat2306Please, not a polymer frame remake with rail and optics cut and plate!
On a more serious note, isn't the series about to reach its 100th anniversary?
ETA: the PP was introduced in 1929, and 1931 for the PPK.
November 27, 2025, 08:11 PM
wrightdIt was already perfect, but I guess the gun world can't support such an old design, like they do for the 1911. Doesn't seem fair. Anyway it will be interesting to see what they come up with. Or not.
I used to have one, it was a great little gun, a classic beauty, from Interarms. I remmember their Mauser sporter bolt rifle, a classic walnut and blue steel beauty. I couldn't afford one. Nobody wants classic guns like that anymore. But that's natural, it would be like buying a new car with 30 year old technolgy with carburetor, mechanicel points, and mechanical fuel pump.
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Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster November 27, 2025, 11:56 PM
newtoSig765They've been overpriced for years. I'd love to get another one and retire my pre-war permanently, but until I do, it's my favorite, the one I'll never part with.
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November 28, 2025, 12:13 AM
YooperSigsHad a couple of them. Bang, bang, jam. But my P230 scratched that itch nicely. Cheaper, too!
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November 28, 2025, 01:25 AM
lechiffreAs far as I'm concerned they wen't out of production when Manuhin, then Ranger stopped making them and S&W started.
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November 28, 2025, 01:45 AM
hjs157Had it not been the pistol of choice for Ian Fleming's
James Bond, the Walther PPK would have long ago taken it's place in history along side the Mauser HSc and Sauer 38H.
November 28, 2025, 06:03 AM
Broadsidequote:
Originally posted by hjs157:
Had it not been the pistol of choice for Ian Fleming's James Bond, the Walther PPK would have long ago taken it's place in history along side the Mauser HSc and Sauer 38H.
Aweful trigger, abysmal sightes, blowback operated with a metal backstrap so recoil efficiently transfers directly into your palm. Relatively anemic calibers, slide bite.
Yeah, hjs157 is right, it’s amazing it lasted this long.
November 28, 2025, 07:16 AM
hberttmankI agree with hjs157 and Broadside, the time for the PPK series has gone. Some classics like the 1911 or BHP will always be around for a good reason. The PPK is nice to have for a collector but as a carry gun or shooter there are much better choices.
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Pipe SmokerI have a .380 Interarms PPK/S. But my P-238 is much better in all respects. The PPK/S is a safe queen.
OTOH, a couple of members here have .22 PPKs and seem to like them.
Serious about crackers. November 28, 2025, 10:54 AM
pedropcolaYup. If they got rid of that horrific beaver tail AND they made a quality all steel version like the original in 22 I would buy one. Maybe two. They won’t so I won’t.
My PPK/S is sentimental (gift from parents for getting winged in the Navy). If it wasn’t for that I would have gotten rid of it decades ago.
November 28, 2025, 11:48 AM
Lefty SigSomething less than a 20 lb DA pull would be helpful.
November 28, 2025, 12:14 PM
Msp1ltAnd most were noted for jamming like a Disco
November 28, 2025, 09:53 PM
wrightdquote:
Originally posted by Msp1lt:
And most were noted for jamming like a Disco
They jammed on some HPs, unless you had the ramp polished by a smith who knew what they were doing, though I don't recall anything about the actual geometry approach angle of the HP ogive, however that worked for that gun. But in total that's right about that gun, you'd have to find THE bullet and OAL that would function reliablity enough for SD. But it was a beauty for sure.
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Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster November 29, 2025, 01:44 PM
AUTiger89Same here. My wife's aunt has one, and it's a piece of junk.
The PPS M2 is a vastly superior pistol; I don't know why Walther hasn't upgraded them to double-stack.
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Originally posted by 12131:
I’m surprised they lasted this long.
Phone's ringing, Dude. November 29, 2025, 03:38 PM
pedropcolaI’d rather they double stacked the PD380. Maybe make the deco key a “normal” decocker. We have plenty of striker options, it would be nice to have a hammer choice.
November 29, 2025, 07:01 PM
MacGyverI wonder what they’ll do with the platform next. I think it’s too iconic for them to successfully pull off something tacticool like Beretta did with the 80X. I’m not saying I’d buy one if Walther did (I’d mostly just like to see one in the original shape without the ugly beavertail), I’m saying that I think their options are just inherently a little more limited. If some exception could be made to that stupid ATF sheet, I’d like to see them German-made and proofed once again.
In any case, I think it’s only a few years out. I doubt Walther will miss the opportunity to celebrate a 100-year anniversary (1929 for the PP and 1931 for the PPK).
November 29, 2025, 09:40 PM
SampsI've had great luck with two of their pot metal PPK/S .22s, but I had to surrender my Arkansas .380s. Slide/beavertail bite, constant light primer strikes and inconsistent feeding cannot be excused. Walther replaced two of these centerfire PPK/S pistols for me, under warranty. The replacements were equally lousy. No quality control.
November 30, 2025, 10:00 PM
lymanquote:
Originally posted by Samps:
I've had great luck with two of their pot metal PPK/S .22s, but I had to surrender my Arkansas .380s. Slide/beavertail bite, constant light primer strikes and inconsistent feeding cannot be excused. Walther replaced two of these centerfire PPK/S pistols for me, under warranty. The replacements were equally lousy. No quality control.
I sell them, as a dealer I let the buyer decide,
however I tell my friends that buy one, they will not like it,
the 380 is not a good fit, function wise,
the 32acp is much better, and everyone the did not like the 380 version, and tried the
32 versions, agreed,
but I still prefer the Colt 1903
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