Question for you South Paws shooting the Macros.

I just got my Macros a few days ago. Wanted to use it as a light weight option to my Elite LTT Langdon 92 or my 226 Elite.

I'll preface this by saying I'm a Law Enforcement Firearms instructor, as well as a Sig certified Armorer. Our guys are still carrying the legacy series 229.

The problems I'm having could most certainly be me but I'll preface this by saying. I've got over 20 years carrying handguns and going to schools such as Gunsite, Pat Rogers, Green-Ops, and many others I've carried everything from a Sig 228/9, Glock 17/19, to currently a Beretta 92 Elite from Langdon Tactical, and when I want a red dot a 226 with a Romeo. I also have 18 years in the firearms training business.

I'm not trying to say that this could all be operator error, but I don't think its me. Granted I've had this pistol for less than a week, but I've put 200 rounds through the pistol. I work with 18 other LE instructors 7 of them are left handed.

When I grip the gun my shooting thumb sits higher than the bottom above the ejection port. It sits high enough that it caused 17 stoppages which where FTE stoppages out of about 200 rounds. The Right handed shooters had no issues what's so ever, but us wrong handed people are experiencing these issues. When cases do eject they actually eject forward, going the same direction the bullet is traveling

Under normal circumstances I would say these problems are likely to be the user, but I've tried it with a number of southpaws all of them being Law Enforcement and/or DCJS certified firearms instructors, but the righties seem to have no issues with the pistol vs us lefties.

I tried changing my grip pushing my thumbs down harder into the support hand, but it doesn't solve the problem. I tried going from the Medium backstrap to the Large, hoping it would modify my grip to change how the strong hand thumb sits, but that didn't work either.

I did reach out to Sig and the guy said he had never talked to a lefty that shoots a Macros. So I though I would see if anyone else is having similar issues.

I still think I'm going to give this gun an honest 300 more rounds hoping its just something strange. If that doesn't work then I might dumping the Macros. The funny thing is I don't have any of these issues with my original 365.

Please don't just comment and say, Guns broken ship to me.

That sucks. Big thumbs small gun, certainly a recipe for issues. It’s odd that you have no issues with 365’s though. Dimensionally I would think those measurements would be similar if not the same.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
That sucks. Big thumbs small gun, certainly a recipe for issues. It’s odd that you have no issues with 365’s though. Dimensionally I would think those measurements would be similar if not the same.

It does!!! I really like this pistol. I did take photos of one of the instructors. Not sure how to upload to this site because its bin a few years since I've been back.

So my understanding is that your P365 Macro is experiencing malfunctions because you thumb is interfering with ejected brass, but this was not an issue with your normal P365?

I'm not left handed (I have my own genetic afflictions, but thankfully not that one ), nor have I handled a P365 Macro yet, but I do have some experience with the P365. My understanding is that the Macro is just a different grip module to accommodate the larger magazine, and it's got the compensated slide of the Spectre Comp on it, which is fully compatible with a regular, non-macro P365. Somebody please step in and correct me if I'm wrong...like I said, I've not had a chance to handle a Macro yet.

It's hard to say without seeing it in person, but assuming my understanding above is correct, I have a couple of theories, and some troubleshooting ideas that I'd undertake were it me:

1. The ejector is slightly out of spec on your P365 Macro FCU, causing brass to eject in a pattern that is incompatible with your grip. If I'm right, you ought to be able to swap the Macro slide onto your standard P365 lower, and see if the issue continues.

2. The compensated upper is changing the ejection pattern compared to your regular P365, resulting in the interference with your thumb. I'm not sure what ammo you're shooting, but I'd try something drastically different, like some 115gr NATO Ball and/or 147gr subsonic and see if it makes a difference.

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
So my understanding is that your P365 Macro is experiencing malfunctions because you thumb is interfering with ejected brass, but this was not an issue with your normal P365?

I'm not left handed (I have my own genetic afflictions, but thankfully not that one ), nor have I handled a P365 Macro yet, but I do have some experience with the P365. My understanding is that the Macro is just a different grip module to accommodate the larger magazine, and it's got the compensated slide of the Spectre Comp on it, which is fully compatible with a regular, non-macro P365. Somebody please step in and correct me if I'm wrong...like I said, I've not had a chance to handle a Macro yet.

It's hard to say without seeing it in person, but assuming my understanding above is correct, I have a couple of theories, and some troubleshooting ideas that I'd undertake were it me:

1. The ejector is slightly out of spec on your P365 Macro FCU, causing brass to eject in a pattern that is incompatible with your grip. If I'm right, you ought to be able to swap the Macro slide onto your standard P365 lower, and see if the issue continues.

2. The compensated upper is changing the ejection pattern compared to your regular P365, resulting in the interference with your thumb. I'm not sure what ammo you're shooting, but I'd try something drastically different, like some 115gr NATO Ball and/or 147gr subsonic and see if it makes a difference.

So been running various things Winchester white box, and some other inncluding 124 HST which I had 2 malfunctions, some of the other guys have been running what ever they have on them. I have one of our instructors another Left hander running it today, if this guy has any issues then I'm pretty sold its not me, he's a contract instructor for us, and his full time gig is one of the team leads on the county SWAT team. But he is about 5 foot 4 with really small hands. Waiting for him to come back and let me know if he had any issues.

My mits are pretty big, and I know the cases are are ejecting into my hands causing the cases to bounce forward or Fail to eject.

Ejection is one thing, but if you're having problems with one grip frame but not another, then maybe the Macro grip frame is orienting your hand in a way that the regular (or XL?) grip frame does not.

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
So my understanding is that your P365 Macro is experiencing malfunctions because you thumb is interfering with ejected brass, but this was not an issue with your normal P365?

I'm not left handed (I have my own genetic afflictions, but thankfully not that one ), nor have I handled a P365 Macro yet, but I do have some experience with the P365. My understanding is that the Macro is just a different grip module to accommodate the larger magazine, and it's got the compensated slide of the Spectre Comp on it, which is fully compatible with a regular, non-macro P365. Somebody please step in and correct me if I'm wrong...like I said, I've not had a chance to handle a Macro yet.

It's hard to say without seeing it in person, but assuming my understanding above is correct, I have a couple of theories, and some troubleshooting ideas that I'd undertake were it me:

1. The ejector is slightly out of spec on your P365 Macro FCU, causing brass to eject in a pattern that is incompatible with your grip. If I'm right, you ought to be able to swap the Macro slide onto your standard P365 lower, and see if the issue continues.

2. The compensated upper is changing the ejection pattern compared to your regular P365, resulting in the interference with your thumb. I'm not sure what ammo you're shooting, but I'd try something drastically different, like some 115gr NATO Ball and/or 147gr subsonic and see if it makes a difference.

Well he just came back and said Gun ran great. Hes thinking about buying one. His hands are also little midget hands. So I'm gonna have to probably look at differn't frames.