This popped up in my feed suggestions. Although I'd be interested in doing some range testing on shooting through pockets/ gear, I haven't so far and I seriously doubt my range would even allow it, so my testing will have to wait for a camping or hunting trip.

It does seem to require some ability to Point Shoot, as recently discussed here:

Ever practice point shooting?

I don't know anything about this YouTuber, and we can't know for certain what caused this failure, but what caught my attention was the stoppage that occurred after he fired from the chest pouch.

If anyone has tried firing through clothing pockets or gear fabric I'd be interested in hearing your result.



https://m.youtube.com/shorts/2...Ou6qs0?feature=share

Thank you.
That’s something I’ve thought about but never tried.

His was an ejection failure, no doubt caused by lack of clearance for the fired case to be ejected from the pistol. That’s why I’ve long thought that if one felt such a measure would ever be needed, a revolver would be better than an autoloader—although one good shot would be better than none.








As a somewhat related point, an advantage (for right-handed shooters) of the “overhand” method of cycling the slide rather than the “slingshot” method he used when clearing a malfunction like that is it’s easier to rotate the pistol so the ejection port is down rather than up as pictured.

Agree a revolver would be more suitable for "pocket" shooting. Not that it couldn't be done today but it might of been more practical many years ago when the styling of jackets was oversized with generous pockets.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
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His was an ejection failure, no doubt caused by lack of clearance for the fired case to be ejected from the pistol. That’s why I’ve long thought that if one felt such a measure would ever be needed, a revolver would be better than an autoloader.

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Ahhh, I suspected an ejection failure, but I haven't figured out how to slow down the YouTube Shorts videos the same way that regular YT videos can be slowed, so thanks for posting the screen caps with the circled areas. Clearly an ejection stoppage.

I agree that revolvers would be the better option for this kind of tactic... but if I can find a reasonably safe way to do it, I'm game for almost any kind of range testing.

FWIW, I didn’t slow the video, I just stopped it about where I was interested and then used the >period< key to step through the frames to the ones I wanted.

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Well that's what I get for posting from my phone. I don't think I'm able to access my keyboard to even hit the >period< key while watching a video on my phone.

Speaking of which, my phone batt is getting ready to zero out, so time for a recharge. Thanks for posting your contributions to the discussion!

Yes, it occurred to me that not everyone does all of their posting from a computer with a keyboard.

And I am constantly fascinated by the stuff you find and post.

Not sure I would ever pocket carry , but , Snub nose with no external hammer would be my choice. Eliminate one more possible issue.

If I envision shooting from inside clothing, my hammerless LCR will serve the purpose.

Paul Harrell did a video on that issue a couple of years back.

https://youtu.be/CAYkoXtulWI

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Originally posted by rat2306:
Paul Harrell did a video on that issue a couple of years back.

Thanks; that was a good one.
Something I noticed about the latter two jackets, though, was they were made of thin lightweight material, probably nylon. Would the type of material have an effect on the outcomes, especially the probability of cloth getting caught in the ejection port as happened at least once?

I very seldom pocket carry, but it would be interesting to conduct experiments.

I pocket carry an S&W 640. No ejected brass, no slide to cycle, and no hammer to snag. The one thing I worry about a little bit is cylinder to forcing cone gap and the associated gasses that escape in that area. I don't think it's a concdern in a jacket pocket where you can push the whole garmet out and away from your body, but in a front pants pocket where it's up kind of tight against your junk...well, I'll let this video speak for itself:



In the video, he refers the hot dog as a subsitiute for a finger...but there's no reason it couldn't also apply to something much, much worse !

I have shot through pockets many, many times over the past four decades. I never had any problem emptying the firearm.

However, I always used a Smith & Wesson Centennial.



I included this item as a drill once in the field portion of a class where the students were afraid of catching the clothing on fire. We shot up 10 or so wind breakers that day

If you HONESTLY believe that shooting from inside a pocket or purse is in your Future, you should not be carrying an auto loader as your only firearm

The TFB TV people did a video on pocket shooting also. A question is, how useful is this? Has anyone ever heard of a defensive shooting where this was used?

I could see the value if you were in contact...like if you got jumped and were being battered or wrestling on the ground. It's not a technique I'd want to use at any distance, but if you were wrapped up by an assailant and couldn't get your gun out of the pocket it might be your only option.

There's nothing surprising in that video. If you want to be able to shoot through a pocket, you need not just a revolver, but a revolver along the lines of Smith's Centennial or Bodyguard.

Ad to the list the S&W M-38 and M-49 with hammer shroud. Also the older Colt Det Spcl, Cobra and Agent with the optional Colt factory hammer shroud.

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Originally posted by Kobren:
Ad to the list the S&W M-38 and M-49 with hammer shroud.

Yes, that's the Bodyguard.

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
I pocket carry an S&W 640. No ejected brass, no slide to cycle, and no hammer to snag. The one thing I worry about a little bit is cylinder to forcing cone gap and the associated gasses that escape in that area. I don't think it's a concdern in a jacket pocket where you can push the whole garmet out and away from your body, but in a front pants pocket where it's up kind of tight against your junk...well, I'll let this video speak for itself:

Hammer-less / shrouded hammer snub nosed revolver.
End of story.
No slide to cycle or hammer in a tight, enclosed area with fabric to get caught up on. Only things moving are my finger and the cylinder. Same as you, and many others. 340PD, most of the time another 5rds in support side pocket.

I'm not worried about the pressure at the cylinder gap and it affecting my "junk" because there's ZERO WAY i'm shooting that from the front pocket of my jeans/shorts. I think that's kind of a "Non issue" because no one is shooting from inside a pants pocket.
Put the revolver in your front pocket and try to rotate the gun towards a potential target. Just aint happening unless you have some HUGE front pockets! Not a lot of room in there.

I toss my snub in a jacket pocket as a BUG.
the times when I toss it in my pants pocket, I'm drawing that gun before I shoot.

Mine gets carried in gym shorts quite a bit, which are loose enough, and also in my uniform pocket, which has enough room to rotate and point it. But no, I won't be shooting it from there, especially after watching that video....there are things worse than death !