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Originally posted by rmfnla:
I could never go with Ruger because of their warning info on their barrels, especially in something like an SA revolver.

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Originally posted by sigarms229:


On the top is my Uberti .357 with the birdshead grip. Absolutely love it.

On the bottom is my Uberti 12shot .22lr. It's ok, don't shoot it much, I keep it for the looks more than anything and I do like that it's built on a fullsize frame.

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Originally posted by 92fstech:

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Coming at my problem from a different approach, if I wanted an SAA with . 44 mag. performance, are there, or have there ever been SAA chambered in . 44 mag? Not that I've spent significant time researching it yet, but in browsing a few SAA clone websites I haven't found one yet, but maybe I'm just not trying hard enough?

Not that I know of, but take that with a grain of salt as I don't have a lot of SAA knowledge. I've always been more of a Blackhawk guy (heck, even my single-six has adjustable sights, lol), not because I wouldn't love an SAA, but the Ruger does what I need better for a lot less money.

I've read that the original large frame "old" Vaqueros (not to be confused with the smaller New Vaquero) could handle the Ruger-Only .45 Colt loads, but I'm not sure if any of them ever left the factory chambered for .44 Mag.

So long story short, I don't know .

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Originally posted by yucaipa:
The "old model Vaqueros" (1993-2004) were built on what used to be called the "super blackhawk" frame/cylinder and were offered in 44mag. The "new model vaqueros" (2005 - present) are currently only offered in "talo" model #10596 and #10598 in 44 mag.

NEVER reload any "new model vaquero" (2005 - present) in any caliber to "Ruger only loads"

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Originally posted by sigarms229:


On the top is my Uberti .357 with the birdshead grip. Absolutely love it.

On the bottom is my Uberti 12shot .22lr. It's ok, don't shoot it much, I keep it for the looks more than anything and I do like that it's built on a fullsize frame.

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Whoa! No kidding?

I've been going back and forth between whether I'd want an SAA chambered in the legacy and iconic . 45 LC cartridge, or the more practical for my purposes of . 44 mag... but if it's true that pumping the . 45 LC up to . 44 mag performance is possible, you may have just solved my dilemma.

Any commercially available . 45 LC w/ .44 mag performance...or you gotta crank out your own to hit that mark?

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by rmfnla:
I could never go with Ruger because of their warning info on their barrels, especially in something like an SA revolver.

I’ll have to dig it out of the safe and take a picture, but on the New Vaquero, it’s on the underside of the barrel in small script that resembles roll marks of the era. It’s so unobtrusive I forgot it was there until I read this post.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
.45 Colt (sometimes incorrectly called ".45 Long Colt" to distinguish it from other .45's and .45 Automatic Cold Pistol--acp) was a weak offering as found in the old west, like most cartridges. At least, by modern standards.

Yes, .45 Colt can be loaded quite stoutly and will certainly rival .44 magnum, but that is not to be used in any firearm.

Commercial loads for .45 Colt, with a few exceptions are not loaded anywhere near that hot. You can get them, but most .45 Colt loads are more of a "cowboy" load, and nothing to write home about. If you want a stiff .45 Colt load, then a Buffalo Bore or Grizzly load will be in the ballpark. At 1250 ft-lbs of energy, the Buffalo Bore +P Outdoorsman 325 grain load is equivalent to .44 magnum, and in many cases, exceeds it.

As noted before, such ammunition is sometimes called "ruger-only" loads with regard to single action old-west pistols. Most aren't made to handle it. If you're running something more modern and built for it, not a problem, but it's still a lot of energy in a handgun. Be careful what you use to fire this ammunition.

.45 Colt is versatile. It will take down anything in the forrest or on the street, or you can load it light and easy. Up to you. You can buy ammunition just the same.

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Originally posted by sigarmsP229:
Modern Day Savage,

I too was worried about the grip and recoil when I bought it but I’ve shot plenty of 357 magnums through it and I don’t believe the birds heads grip changes the perceived recoil or shoot ability of the gun. Actually I was surprised how comfortable it was to shoot.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by rmfnla:
I could never go with Ruger because of their warning info on their barrels, especially in something like an SA revolver.

I’ll have to dig it out of the safe and take a picture, but on the New Vaquero, it’s on the underside of the barrel in small script that resembles roll marks of the era. It’s so unobtrusive I forgot it was there until I read this post.

Ok, finally as promised:

“Before using” is mostly covered by the ejector rod head.

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Originally posted by bigwagon:
45 Colt can definitely be loaded very stoutly as evidenced by the performance of the 454 Casull, which is as essentially a longer magnum version of it, ala 38 Special vs. 357 Magnum. But the performance of the original black powder loadings of 45 Colt is nothing shabby, pushing a 250 gr bullet at close to 900 FPS.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by rmfnla:
I could never go with Ruger because of their warning info on their barrels, especially in something like an SA revolver.

I’ll have to dig it out of the safe and take a picture, but on the New Vaquero, it’s on the underside of the barrel in small script that resembles roll marks of the era. It’s so unobtrusive I forgot it was there until I read this post.

Ok, finally as promised:

“Before using” is mostly covered by the ejector rod head.