Been using the red dot on my carry guns for a couple years. Think I have it.

Committed to being better with my weak hand. Just frustrating. From the transfer, I'm still searching for the dot. Follow up shots are ok, it's already on target/dotted.

Tried looking at taret, tried looking at front sight. Seems I'm always moving to get dot.


HELP?

Ideally, you'll still shoot it with target focus and both eyes open. Make sure you're aligning the gun in front of the dominant eye. If you're looking for a proprioceptive index (that sure is a big, fancy word, I like aligning the first joint of the thumb with the nose. You might also slow the presentation down as you get close to full extension.

These are the things that have worked for me. It's a relatively complicated task.

That is one benefit of the Vulcan reticle that I have found. Odd positions and off hand is where it shines for me.

No different than anything else, practice. You are struggling because your index with support hand is not as developed as with strong hand. Everyone struggles with that especially when put on a timer. Standards and classifiers that make optic shooters shoot with a support hand are always fun to watch but rarely fun to shoot yourself.
First, consistent placement of a gun in your support hand after the transfer. Even small variability will mess it up. In my own shooting, this is a #1 reason I screw up my WHO.
Second, consistent angulation and degree of wrist lockup. That's my second reason for screwups.
You want to turn the gun inside to align the optic under your dominant eye, unless you're crossdominant. The more square you're to the target, the more rotation.
Target focus all the time, shitton of dry fire, no other secrets.

It does take practice,more so with the weak hand. I try to do point shooting, as it feels natural but I can't seem to get a handle on the dots myself,even with both hands. They're not for everyone.

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Originally posted by mike56:
Been using the red dot on my carry guns for a couple years. Think I have it.

Committed to being better with my weak hand. Just frustrating. From the transfer, I'm still searching for the dot. Follow up shots are ok, it's already on target/dotted.


Tried looking at taret, tried looking at front sight. Seems I'm always moving to get dot.


HELP?

Some prefer to close the other eye.
I just keep doing dry reps with both eyes open until it became comfortable.

Much better today.
Stopped that gangster cant crap and locked it out square to target. Using 3-4 yards.

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Originally posted by mike56:
Much better today.
Stopped that gangster cant crap and locked it out square to target. Using 3-4 yards.

That is my technique of choice with the dot. I tend to cant a bit when shooting one-handed with irons, but found that doing so affects the way the dot recovers under recoil. Locking my arm out straight makes the dot recover straight up and down which I find to be more predictable.

When I went through the Sig red dot class they showed us another one-handed technique that involved orienting the gun straight up and down, but with the elbow bent about 20 degrees. This worked for some people, but not so much for me. I tried it but ended up going back to the locked out elbow because I felt like it gave me more control. I have long, skinny, whimpy arms...a stronger, more muscular person could probably employ that technique more effectively.

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Originally posted by mike56:
Much better today.
Stopped that gangster cant crap and locked it out square to target. Using 3-4 yards.

I shoot one handed with the gun straight up as well. I shoot a thumb up grip one handed for a couple reasons:

1) I trap the gun with the pinky and first joint of the thumb, which helps keep the trigger finger relaxed and provides some support on the thumb side, keeping recoil more up and down.

2) The inside of the grip is kept relatively clear so going back to a two hand grip is much easier. Too many police shooting videos where the guy death grips the gun one handed while using the radio, using a light, opening a door, etc., and then when he goes to put the support hand back on the gun, the thumb is in the way.

3) Because of the support on the inside, I find that the flinchies, which usually manifest in the path of least resistance (to the inside when shooting one handed) aren't as bad for me.

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Originally posted by DaBigBR:
Ideally, you'll still shoot it with target focus and both eyes open. Make sure you're aligning the gun in front of the dominant eye. If you're looking for a proproceptive index (that sure is a big, fancy word, I like aligning the first joint of the thumb with the nose. You might also slow the presentation down as you get close to full extension.

These are the things that have worked for me. It's a relatively complicated task.

When I shoot weak hand I shoot with my weak hand eye with both eyes open. When I shoot strong hand I use the strong hand eye. I will also note that it's automatic for me. IMO a lot of the eye dominance garbage constantly circulating is nothing more than Mind Games.

It's all just a subtle game of telling you can't do something when countless studies has shown that our brains have the ability to Adapt on a massive scale. If you want to learn how to shoot with either eye it's actually pretty simple. Start out by closing the eye that you don't wish to use. As you gain recognition for shooting with that eye start opening both eyes after you're lined up on the target. If you increase the use of both eyes while shooting you will gain the ability to automatically use the eye that lines up with your shooting hand. As for the benefit, attempting to use the traditional "dominant" eye with the opposite hand will place the gun out of alignment with your wrist and forearm so you will have a distinct tendency to pull shots off center. BTW at some points you may start seeing two guns when your vision is focused on the target. That really isn't a problem. Because if you always sight in on the image that is closest to the center of your chest you will be using the correct eye. So for that secondary image, just ignore it because it's not pertinent to the task at hand.

PS; I fully expect that there will be a thunderstorm of people who say this is impossible. Because sadly people have been trained for the past 50 years to always follow the lead cow in the herd without question. For those willing to break out of herd mentality try this yourself and see what happens when you apply yourself to leaning a new skill. I'll also point out that many of the nay sayers will find if they pick up a rifle and sight it in off the "weak" side shoulder they will find that their vision automatically shifts to the weak side eye.