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Do I need an AR pistol? And if so, why?
January 22, 2021, 08:49 AM
EasyFireDo I need an AR pistol? And if so, why?
What hole am I filling with an AR15 556 Pistol?
I have hunting rifles, shotguns, various pistols from 22 to 45 in both CCW and full size. 3 AR15 556 tricked out to barebones.
I am offered a new Springfield ~ $600.
Sincere advice appreciated...
January 22, 2021, 08:56 AM
VictimNoMore-Easily concealable (check your state laws) for an AR.
-Rifle caliber in a "pistol".
-Loud and fun to shoot.
January 22, 2021, 10:33 AM
MagnumUFun to shoot - suppressed or unsuppressed, a SIG MCX "Rattler," for example, is literally a "blast."
I think .300 Blackout is probably a better choice than 5.56x45mm, the shorter the barrel the more of the advantage to .300 Blackout.
January 22, 2021, 10:36 AM
ruger357House gun.
In my state it falls under my pistol permit for concealed carry/car carry purposes.
Short, handy and fun.
Easy and lighter for kids and women to shoot.
Still short when suppressed.
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January 22, 2021, 11:05 AM
LimaCharlieSome states ban transporting a loaded rifle or shotgun under their hunting regulations.
Other than that, it comes down to do you want one.
They are very loud, so wear two levels of hearing protection unless you get a suppressor for it.
I had one and sold it. It was too large for concealed carry and too small for serious accuracy at distances.
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January 22, 2021, 11:36 AM
Fredward600 bucks? Buy it now!
January 22, 2021, 12:49 PM
yucaipaI don't if I need one yet. I've ordered one and I am waiting on it. After it gets here, we'll see if I need it.
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January 22, 2021, 01:09 PM
BigSwedeBecause
And yes, $600 buy it now
January 22, 2021, 01:13 PM
aparocheFor $600 dollars, it should already be in your gun safe. You won’t beat that price anywhere for an AR.
January 22, 2021, 01:14 PM
hudrI second BigSwede.
I will add to his comment with “contrary to popular belief, this is still the United States of America”
You want it, you have the funds, get it.
January 22, 2021, 01:18 PM
Excam_ManBecause it pisses of the commies.
January 22, 2021, 01:19 PM
pedropcolaBang around your house with a AR15. Then do it with an AR pistol. It sells itself. The 300 option for home gun makes sense.
January 22, 2021, 01:37 PM
Nipperquote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Because it pisses of the commies.
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January 22, 2021, 03:58 PM
khoDo you need it? Thats entirely up to you. From what you said my take is that you don't need an AR pistol.
Does it fill a hole? Maybe. As said, its a rifle caliber in a package that is smaller than a long gun although bigger than a more traditional hand gun. Some think it works better than either for car/truck gun or HD. Again, I don't see that as a hole in your collection.
FWIW my suggestion is if you are on the fence, for $600 go for it and see if it fits you if or if you just find you like it. If not sell it. At that price you won't take a beating no matter what.
January 22, 2021, 04:58 PM
Blume9mmYou said AR and so I presume you are wanting to stay with .223 ammo... I'm not an expert but I doubt you can suppress most of that ammo.
Bottom line is if you want one, then get it. The nice thing is with a few modifications you can always make it a rifle.
Now I have an AR style pistol on the way... but it will be chambered in a pistol caliber cartridge.
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January 22, 2021, 05:12 PM
Il CattivoDon't be silly. You don't need an AR pistol; they're pointless.
What you need is an AK pistol, preferably with a barrel about 12" long or longer. To date, AKs still tend to function better and more reliably with the 7.62x39 than do ARs. The 7.62x39, in turn, loses a substantially smaller portion of the velocity you would expect from a 16" barrel when fired from a pistol-length barrel. Therefore an AK pistol makes a lot more sense than an AR pistol.
Now, do you
need an AK pistol? I don't know or care - I just hope you thoroughly enjoy it.
January 22, 2021, 05:32 PM
EasyFireInteresting thought presented here.
And I am learning some different ways of looking at the issue.
January 22, 2021, 05:47 PM
hrcjonI guess it varies by State. But in my State you can carry a loaded pistol in a vehicle. This is a huge advantage over having an unloaded rifle there AND the package is substantially smaller, lighter and much much more useful. Caliber isn't really related to that as you can pick any AR caliber and/or change between them. There are a number of other advantages in other areas where in my state a shorter barrel pistol is exempt from the mag limits of rifles(this is really a hunting law, but the exception allows one to escape a problem when carrying a high capacity magazine on no hunting days in the woods).
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January 22, 2021, 06:21 PM
GibbI'm close to the state border, and prefer a "pistol" over an SBR just so that i can take it to an indoor range without needing to notify the ATF.
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DaBigBRquote:
Originally posted by Blume9mm:
You said AR and so I presume you are wanting to stay with .223 ammo... I'm not an expert but I doubt you can suppress most of that ammo.
Huh? There are dozens of suppressors on the market for 5.56/.223. Supersonic rifles don't suppress great because of the sonic crack of the round, but if you told me I was going to be in a fight in a confined space, I'd take a short barreled AR with a can over one without or a 16" gun all day long.