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Is Nitron a coating or a Treatment?

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December 05, 2017, 10:07 AM
jbcummings
Is Nitron a coating or a Treatment?
Let’s say I’ve got a P224 SAS with the standard Nitron finish and I was considering putting some grippy hash grooves on the front of the trigger guard. Would I be exposing the steel underneath the coating or is Nitron a treatment that’s fairly deep in the metal? Maybe just grip tape instead (btw I hate grip tape).


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December 05, 2017, 11:56 AM
SimpleIsGood229
Please pardon my having been under a rock for some timme lol, but they made a steel frame variant of the P-224?


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December 05, 2017, 12:01 PM
BBMW
AFAIK, SIG has never actually said what Nitron is. I think they've hinted that it's something like Tennifer/Melonite, meaning ferric nitrocarborizing. But I've read elsewhere that it's tungsten DLC. Either way I think it's more of a treatment than a coating (a coating being something like Cerakote.)
December 05, 2017, 12:01 PM
BBMW
The trigger is likely steel.

quote:
Originally posted by SimpleIsGood229:
Please pardon my having been under a rock for some timme lol, but they made a steel frame variant of the P-224?

December 05, 2017, 12:32 PM
stoic-one
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
The trigger is likely steel.

quote:
Originally posted by SimpleIsGood229:
Please pardon my having been under a rock for some timme lol, but they made a steel frame variant of the P-224?
quote:
Originally posted by jbcummings:
...front of the trigger guard.


Anodized aluminum frame, but the trigger is likely MIM, so probably an alloy/steel...
I would consider it a treatment and not a coating(and not particularly deep at that, so yes, you're exposing metal), as mentioned, Cerakote is a coating.


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December 05, 2017, 12:53 PM
Il Cattivo
SIG hasn't been crazy about modifying frames in the past, but that's a small enough change that I wonder whether the Custom Shop wouldn't be willing to handle the project.
December 05, 2017, 01:10 PM
jbcummings
Steel or alloy of some flavor, I could have been off on calling it steel. I have more than one pistol that has hashing on the front of the trigger guard. I’m just trying to figure out if I’m potentially causing a problem by a little do-it-yourself work. I can imagine it might take me less than an hour to carefully create a small patch that would aide my non-domment hand and give me a little more purchase during recoil.


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December 05, 2017, 01:26 PM
stoic-one
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Originally posted by jbcummings:
Steel or alloy of some flavor, I could have been off on calling it steel.
Yeah, no, it's aluminum alloy unless they made a P224ST no one has ever heard of, and certainly not in an SAS flavor.

It's your frame and you can do as you wish with it obviously, I don't use a grip that places my weak hand digit/s on the trigger guard, but by all means. It shouldn't be difficult and I doubt it would be deep enough to hurt the weapon structurally, do you have a plan to match the existing finish?

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December 05, 2017, 01:39 PM
winter_war
Nitron is a Physical Vapor Deposition (PVD) finish.

Your alloy frame is anodized with a black dye coat.



December 07, 2017, 08:32 AM
rock185
No matter if the frame is steel or aluminum, treated or coated, if you cut grooves into the trigger guard, you're cutting through whatever the surface finish is, and the base metal will be exposed. I see guns with similar modifications at every large gun show. If I had to have some treatment to the trigger guard, I'd look into that skateboard tape type stuff.


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December 07, 2017, 09:53 AM
BuddyChryst
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Originally posted by rock185:
No matter if the frame is steel or aluminum, treated or coated, if you cut grooves into the trigger guard, you're cutting through whatever the surface finish is, and the base metal will be exposed. I see guns with similar modifications at every large gun show. If I had to have some treatment to the trigger guard, I'd look into that skateboard tape type stuff.


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December 07, 2017, 10:38 AM
jhe888
The frame is aluminum, so it isn't Nitron, whatever Nitron is.

You will be cutting through the black-dyed anodizing if you do it. The trigger guard isn't too structural, so you can probably get away with it, but it will be aluminum colored under the anodizing.

And checkering on the front of the trigger guard is soooooo 1984.




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December 07, 2017, 10:54 AM
Pipe Smoker
Well, my X5 is post-1984 and it has checkering on the front of its trigger guard. Smile



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December 07, 2017, 11:07 AM
SiGagain
When I sent my 1986 P225 back to SIGArms circa 2012ish for a full Nitron treatment (yes they can Nitron aluminum) my pistol was sent to the same state and town that IONBond is located in but SIG is famously tight lipped about their actual Nitron finish/process which may have used other vendors over time.

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