Got the P320c milled for the little Trijicon RMRcc… I think it makes even more sense on these “big” guns than on the tiny ones. I’m digging the zero-overhang.
Anyone on the fence, DO IT! It’s awesome.
Posts: 4 | Location: Murfreesboro, TN USA | Registered: November 04, 2003
I just had my P365 milled for the RMRcc (fits great), but unfortunately, when installing the optic one of the screws sheared off so now it's at my local gunsmith awaiting a screw-removal and replacement.
And yes, I used a torque wrench set to the manufacturer's recommended 18 inch lbs. No idea how that happened. And no, it wasn't cross-threaded.
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Oh yeah, the irons. They are just “placeholders” until my suppressor-height sights get here, to protect the dovetail. And due to the funky shape of the factory SIG rear (and my desire to get the optic as low as possible), the factory rear only fit in backwards.
As for the dust and funk… yes, no excuse. The inside of the gun is cleaner, I promise.
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Until I went to the dot, I had tritium sights on my carry guns. For sights that are just a backup to the optic, I really don’t think they are needed.
They also glow like suns under NODs. Very distracting. I specifically chose these sights because unlike most suppressor-height sets, these Don’t have tritium inserts.
Posts: 4 | Location: Murfreesboro, TN USA | Registered: November 04, 2003
Originally posted by hrcjon: don’t see any tritium in those which if you actually think this is a carry gun you should reconsider. if it’s there great.
Night sights aren't as necessary on a gun like that, with a MRDS and a WML.
Consider the remoteness of a situation in which you can clearly identify your target but you can't see your sights well enough to get a sight picture, and your MRDS is down.
If your target is lit enough to identify, there will almost certainly be enough contrast to be able to line up non-tritium sights.
Besides, he has a WML on it. The light from the WML will allow you to provide your own illumination to identify your target, and provide contrast to be able to use the backup iron sights (even without there being glowing tritium dots).
I'd rather have a WML with black sights than no WML and tritium sights.
Your response doesn't match much of my low light/no light shooting experience. Its sometimes true that the WML gives you enough but is also completely common (again in my experience) that the MRDS is not down but its intensity is unacceptable at that moment and the WML doesn't generate enough light to see your (non tritium) irons. You can easily try this in any completely dark setting where you don't get much or any splash off a ceiling to help. Target down range WML on no MRDS dot usable, the target is completely visible, you simply can't aim especially if trying to work around an obstacle or suck. Tritium makes this trivial. Maybe its not an issue except where we shoot at night, but I've had that many times. The issue the OP brought up was problems under NV and I have no experience in that with a pistol, I've only shot under NV with a rifle and and IR illumination/laser. But again I'm not saying there is a right or a wrong way. to each his own working setup. they all have tradeoffs.
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I have a RMR equipped G19, and have handled a few unmounted RMRccs in the store. I actually prefer the window arrangement in the RMRcc since the sighting picture is flatter, if that makes sense. I don’t really notice the smaller window.
I suspect I’ll have a RMRcc mounted on a carry gun before too long. Direct milling a G26 would be tempting, for one.
Posts: 217 | Location: Central Texas | Registered: February 27, 2005
I prefer to have the larger window of the Holosun 507 V2 RDS with the Primary Arms ACSS reticle on my P320 Scopion. On the one way range window size doesn't matter, but on the two way range where you you will find yourself in many different positions, a larger window size is superior and gives up little to nothing in concealability. The ACSS reticle in the Holosun 507 V2 from Primary Arms really helps you locate the dot quickly if you loose it for any reason.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Biggy,
Posts: 388 | Location: Ohio | Registered: November 01, 2014
Originally posted by hrcjon: Your response doesn't match much of my low light/no light shooting experience. Its sometimes true that the WML gives you enough but is also completely common (again in my experience) that the MRDS is not down but its intensity is unacceptable at that moment and the WML doesn't generate enough light to see your (non tritium) irons. You can easily try this in any completely dark setting where you don't get much or any splash off a ceiling to help. Target down range WML on no MRDS dot usable, the target is completely visible, you simply can't aim especially if trying to work around an obstacle or suck. Tritium makes this trivial. Maybe its not an issue except where we shoot at night, but I've had that many times. The issue the OP brought up was problems under NV and I have no experience in that with a pistol, I've only shot under NV with a rifle and and IR illumination/laser. But again I'm not saying there is a right or a wrong way. to each his own working setup. they all have tradeoffs.
At the risk of getting sucked back into this argument, how do you have a target "completely visible" (and presumably able to be positively identified as a threat) and not able to see the outline of the irons? I just can't get there.
I hate pulling outside opinions into the mix, but I was just at Aaron Cowan's low light class and he does not see the point of night sights on a gun with a red dot.
Posts: 5243 | Location: Iowa | Registered: February 24, 2011
I guess I would say it this way. If you believe in NS you get them, if you don't then don't. The dot has nothing to do with that. The point of backup irons is for use when you can't use the dot. and NS or not that point is often argued. Me what I have found is that when you illuminate the target then decide to engage you go looking for the dot and take a second to figure out you don't have it generally moving the gun around a bit searching, then you decide to go for the irons. They aren't just out there projecting into space, they are buried behind the optic with just a tiny projection in the window and exactly the same color as the slide and dot base. I find that having a couple of glowing dot's helps me get the whole shebang lined back up in a usable firing position. Especially if I'm trying to work shooting around something. But that's just me and my experience. I'm old and my eyes suck which is why I have the dot in the first place.
“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
