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A P220 gamble: more pics

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August 15, 2022, 02:57 PM
Udo
A P220 gamble: more pics
It’s been an exciting couple of weeks. It all began when decided to make a wider search for interesting P220’s. I get this urge about every six months. Actually I was bored and thought I would kill some time with a differently worded search for early examples. The search turned up a ton of 45s and none on the early side, until I spotted one that was a little different. The close up showed a slide with the magic serial beginning in G 100. As in 100 889.
I tried to figure out what I was looking at. The slide was a “pinch nose”. Had someone butchered it by forcing a 45 barrel into the old slide? I certainly had never head of this old a 45.
It was Casino time. I decided to gamble and negotiated a reasonable price. Now it was time to wait out the payment and the shipment time. The wait was painful.
Delivery day arrived and I flew to the dealer and as soon as it cleared the holster my eyes were on the grip. Ohh, it matches the slide. I interrupted the conversation as I rushed to break it apart. Out loud I shouted “oh my God!” Five people stopped what they were doing. Normally very reserved, I had shocked myself.
The barrel had a matching serial! I had no idea such a bird even existed. All proof dated 1976 “HG” and the condition was better than the photo. I filled a hole in my collection that I didn’t know existed. There are several more questions to discuss, but first some pictures.

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August 15, 2022, 03:00 PM
Udo
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August 15, 2022, 03:06 PM
stoic-one
Nice acquisition.
That's got to be one of the earliest 45ACP versions out there.


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August 15, 2022, 03:07 PM
Udo
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August 15, 2022, 03:11 PM
parabellum
Lovely super-early example
August 15, 2022, 03:23 PM
SIGnified
Super interesting; that’s great Cool





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August 15, 2022, 03:36 PM
Udo
The magazine caliber markings are larger than the later P220–1 versions in 45ACP


August 15, 2022, 03:43 PM
Udo
Here’s a bonus mystery in lowest right corner of the chin. My wife has an idea but more later.




August 15, 2022, 03:50 PM
Udo
Has anyone seen a holster like this. Not a single mark on it. Seems police like but I’ve most Germans are proud of their work and mark it.

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August 15, 2022, 03:58 PM
hjs157
Until today, I was unaware a .45 auto pinch nose existed. Awesome.
August 15, 2022, 04:01 PM
YooperSigs
I could be mistaken, but the holster might be an old Triple K.


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August 15, 2022, 04:16 PM
Udo
Thanks for the lead. There is not a single import mark anywhere on the pistol.

hjs157 until it arrived I felt sure it was going to be a bust. My mind was blown
August 15, 2022, 04:35 PM
Sauer Kraut
Dang! Nice is an understatement
August 15, 2022, 04:39 PM
hjs157
quote:
Originally posted by Udo:
hjs157 until it arrived I felt sure it was going to be a bust. My mind was blown


Having personally examined dozens upon dozens of early P220's, I must admit I am more than intrigued. Until your pistol surfaced, the earliest .45 auto model I was aware of was a square nosed HH proofed Hawes import. I look forward to learning more. Thank you very much for posting.
August 15, 2022, 05:39 PM
jhe888
I know very little (as in one step above nothing) about these, but that is cool. Glad you found something that fills a gap in the hoard.




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August 15, 2022, 06:10 PM
P-220
What a great looking, early P220.

Congratulations and thank you for sharing.


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August 15, 2022, 06:50 PM
NMDave
WOW!!! What a cool find Cool

I have a 1977 (HH) in .45 and thought IT was a Unicorn.





BUT… it’s actually a Browning by SIG. Big Grin






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August 15, 2022, 06:57 PM
9mmepiphany
The 220 versions imported by Hawes and the Browning BDA had the pinched slide.

The Swiss P75 used the same slide




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August 15, 2022, 08:21 PM
Udo
quote:
Originally posted by 9mmepiphany:
The 220 versions imported by Hawes and the Browning BDA had the pinched slide.


Not saying they don’t exist, but I have yet to see a BDA or Hawes in 45APC with a pinched nose

quote:
The Swiss P75 used the same slide


All P75s are 9mm and all early ones had pinch nose slides. No 45 P75s
August 15, 2022, 08:49 PM
hjs157
quote:
Originally posted by Udo:
quote:
Originally posted by 9mmepiphany:
The 220 versions imported by Hawes and the Browning BDA had the pinched slide.


Not saying they don’t exist, but I have yet to see a BDA or Hawes in 45APC with a pinched nose


Nor have I.