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Finally put a optic on my 50th Birthday Glock...I think I like the iron sights better
March 25, 2021, 03:26 PM
usncorpsmanFinally put a optic on my 50th Birthday Glock...I think I like the iron sights better
So when my family gave me this Glock for my 50th birthday, they also gave me a Holosun 507c to go along with it. I tried it out today for the first time with the red dot and actually shot it better with the iron sights. I am extremely accurate with my 365XL and 507k, in fact, it is my carry gun. Glocks with red dots, not so much. The best thing about the MOS is I can take the red dot off and just have the iron sights

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March 25, 2021, 03:52 PM
SIG228I'd be interested if you decide to sell.
March 25, 2021, 03:59 PM
photohauseHappy birthday!
Don't. drink & drive, don't even putt.
March 25, 2021, 04:25 PM
Jimmo952It takes time to get used to the dot. There is a learning curve.
If you work at it a bit you might find you like it.
March 25, 2021, 05:19 PM
usncorpsmanquote:
Originally posted by Jimmo952:
It takes time to get used to the dot. There is a learning curve.
If you work at it a bit you might find you like it.
Did you read my entire post

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I have no issues shooting my Sig 365XL with a 507k or my Stacatto P-Duo with Trijicon RMR

. I can bang steel with the Glock without issue, but it looks like a shotgun pattern. I actually get groups when shooting my other guns. I’m pretty sure it is a trigger issue.
March 25, 2021, 05:33 PM
Jimmo952quote:
Originally posted by usncorpsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmo952:
It takes time to get used to the dot. There is a learning curve.
If you work at it a bit you might find you like it.
Did you read my entire post

?
I have no issues shooting my Sig 365XL with a 507k or my Stacatto P-Duo with Trijicon RMR

. I can bang steel with the Glock without issue, but it looks like a shotgun pattern. I actually get groups when shooting my other guns. I’m pretty sure it is a trigger issue.
Sorry! I read the first half anyway...
March 25, 2021, 05:35 PM
Flash-LBquote:
Originally posted by Jimmo952:
It takes time to get used to the dot. There is a learning curve.
If you work at it a bit you might find you like it.
There definitely is. It took me around 6 months of shooting it once a week to get to where I didn't have to hunt for the dot.
March 26, 2021, 06:40 AM
gwmacI have an optic on a range gun 9mm that I enjoy. I tried an optic on my Hellcat for a couple of months. My conclusion was that, for me, iron sights work better on my carry gun. It just seems faster, and I don''t have a ton of ammo to maybe gain the necessary experience, and frankly, nor the desire to try.
Bill
March 26, 2021, 07:41 AM
Jimmo952I finally decided to try optics when shooting became more of an eye-test than a skills test.
It took some work before it felt natural. I mean by that to where there was no hunting for the dot.
After awhile you stop even thinking of the dot and it becomes really very natural.
All that being said, in the mythical 1-5 yard range, I do not thing the difference between irons and dot is that great. As the distance increases though, that dot offers some real advantage.
March 26, 2021, 07:46 AM
PHCEnjoy it while you can, at 50 I preferred iron sights also, by 60 I had to learn to use a red dot or give up shooting my pistols. I learned how to use a red dot

Retired PHC USN
March 26, 2021, 07:50 AM
PASigGood.
A huge optic like that on a carry pistol is ridiculous anyway IMO
March 26, 2021, 09:16 AM
pedropcolaOk good, I thought it was just me, that optic looks massive on a G19. Maybe slide your RMR over to this one and see if that makes any difference. It could be the pictures and I own no Holosuns’s but the height over the bore looks bigger than RMR/DPP.
Still love that gun though. So nice your family did that.
March 26, 2021, 10:53 AM
DaBigBRI would stick with it.
March 26, 2021, 11:31 AM
Jim WatsonIt is artistic incompatibility dispersing your shots. Have the dot housing embellished to match the gun and it will shoot better.
March 26, 2021, 11:47 AM
BBMWMaybe it's the wrong reticle? If the dot is to big it may not give you the precision you want.
March 26, 2021, 08:58 PM
usncorpsmanThe angle of the pics makes the optic look bigger than it is. It actually has the same footprint of the RMR and uses the same plate. The top is a little longer to accommodate the solar system. This is not a carry gun for me, so the optic will stay for now. I just need more trigger time

March 26, 2021, 11:24 PM
monoblokMy muscle memory was--and to a large degree still is--a difficult thing for me to overcome. I'm still not comfortably reliable with a RDO on a MOS Glock; the sighting level is not what I'm ingrained to. 30+ years of bring up a compact Glock in a specific way have proven to be somewhat difficult to counteract and overcome. I'm better than when I started with MOS Glocks (both G19s), but I still drill, practice and
most importantly carry a non-RDO equipped G23, which is my EDC. Guess my simpleton brain doesn't like conflicting instruction sets. I've gotten better with the RDOs but it's not close enough to being a natural feeling thing. I've thought about buying one of those pre-milled, aftermarket RMR-ready aftermarket slides and using that to train with instead of dealing with the factory slide and the MOS plate's thickness and subsequent added height. Lowering the sighting plane, especially to someplace close to cowitnessing with the irons, should I think definitely help me. At least that's my thought.
-MG
March 27, 2021, 12:35 AM
1lowlifequote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Good.
A huge optic like that on a carry pistol is ridiculous anyway IMO
I concur...
Ditch the optic if it isn't meeting your needs..
Go with what you know...
Why retrain yourself to use optics on 1 pistol, when you may have others with iron sights you carry on occasion?
March 27, 2021, 05:04 PM
DaBigBRquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Good.
A huge optic like that on a carry pistol is ridiculous anyway IMO
The 507C is basically the same size as a Trijicon RMR. Part of what's making it look big is the angle, another part is Glock's crappy factory MOS plate. A C&H or FCD plate would help.
March 30, 2021, 12:23 PM
CPD SIGDoc:
Quick side note- It took a while, because Corded Arms was out of stock, but I got the magazine baseplates in last week.
DAMMMMNNNNN! They are nice!
If the rest of their products are that well built, you've got one hell of a gun!
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