Picked up my Shadow Systems DR920 Combat yesterday and was able to get out to the range today. To say I'm happy with it would be an understatement. Burned through 200 rounds today as their recommended break-in period. Problem free, no hiccups.

Really pleased with it, points naturally which no Glock has never done for me. Hits to point of aim. Trigger is much better than a standard Glock. I got this with the intent of mounting an optic as kind of an entry drug into the world of red dots. Impressed with Shadow's optics cut system, now just need to figure out which optic to mount on it.

Obligatory pic;

They are great guns and a heck of a value for what you get compared to the other guccis.

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
points naturally which no Glock has never done for me.

I held a used/older one at LGS last month, and it still pointed like a Glock (at least it seemed that way to me). Have they modified anything? I would really like to find a G19 clone that doesn't feel like a G19.

I have an MR920 with a Trijicon RMR that had some failure to go into battery issues in the first 400 rounds. The barrel hood was fit extremely tight to the slide. A quick tap at the back of the slide and it would continue on. That problem or any other hasn’t shown up again in the last 1200 rounds. I can’t speak to the older models, but the newer models point less Glock like. As to the triggers, I hear they are somewhat hit or miss and that has been my experience as well. I have a pretty good one, as good as the five Gen 5 factory Glock triggers in my safe which were all excellent out of the box.

Glocks never pointed naturally for me as I grew up shooting 1911s and Sigs and competed with both. A Glock trigger is never going to be a crisp 1911 trigger. That said, after spending some time shooting with OpSpec I have learned how to run and appreciate a Glock trigger. I have also learned how to point a grip, point, and shoot a Glock. All of that translates into running the Shadow Systems gun very effectively. I will also say that the lessons learned also translated into shooting a DA/SA pistol with a proficiency I never dreamed possible.

To some, the Glock gives them everything they need so they don’t see any value guns like the Shadow Sytems. To some, the features of the “Gucci” Glocks are worth the cost of entry. To me, I enjoy the MR920 immensely and shoot it regularly. I’m glad you’re happy with your new gun and hope you continue to enjoy it.

Cool!

I've had decent luck with Salient. It has the grip angle of a M&P and Glock architecture.

Coworker has one of the Shadow variants & is quite happy with it. Felt like a Glock to me, but I haven't shot it.

Another friend has the PSA Dagger & while feeling like a Glock, points much more naturally, for me. Also was my first time trying a pistol RDS, which worked pretty well too.

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Originally posted by neex:
I held a used/older one at LGS last month, and it still pointed like a Glock (at least it seemed that way to me). Have they modified anything? I would really like to find a G19 clone that doesn't feel like a G19.

They come w/ three different backstraps that change the grip angle. If you don't want it to point like a Glock, you need to install one of the other two.

Love my Shadow systems pistol. 17 round mag, short barrel ( a la Glock 19), came with a Holosun optic. Feels much better in the hand than a Glock. Externally a shadow systems with 1911 angle on the grip, beaver tail, trigger guard undercut for a higher grip, and nice rtf. Internally it is Glock with parts being interchangeable with the Glock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMLxB95WwrY&t=6s

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Originally posted by neex:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
points naturally which no Glock has never done for me.

I held a used/older one at LGS last month, and it still pointed like a Glock (at least it seemed that way to me). Have they modified anything? I would really like to find a G19 clone that doesn't feel like a G19.

Glocks have always pointed right and low for me. I constantly have to readjust my grip and sight picture and I've owned Glocks in the past.

Shadow Systems has 3 different backstops that come with the gun. The owner of my LGS spent a lot of time and let me try different combinations in the shop. The backstops combined with the different ergos of the Shadow Systems frame made a huge difference for me.

As much as I liked Glock G19, I would never go back after getting my MR920 Combat.

Shadow Systems had a demo day at my local range a couple of weeks ago. I shot the g43 equivalent and really enjoyed shooting it- especially compared to my stock g43. The comp'ed version with a red dot was even better. I shot it back to back with my stock g43 and then staccato C. My staccato was still better. but for a light weight carry gun, the shadow systems was awesome. I'm annoyed that they use proprietary mags, as I've got a bunch of glock mags already. I'm going to try an apex trigger in my g43 to see if that bridges the gap a little.

I'm not surprised that they'd use proprietary magazines in their 43 version since the biggest complaint about the 43X is magazine capacity. Their mags probably work better than the Shield Arms magazines, but I don't have any proof of that.

OP - Congrats on your acquisition. I've come to like the SS lineup and recently picked up their G43 clone, CR920. Really like having the option of a flush 10 rd mag (in a G43 footprint) or having an extended 13rd mag.

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As much as I liked Glock G19, I would never go back after getting my MR920 Combat

Same. I shoot the SS better, hard to explain it, but it shoots better for me. I like the sights, slide release and performance. The fact they look better helps too.

Points like a Glock to me. Shoots better, but that's on their superior trigger action and bow compared to a comparable bone stock Glock. Ergonomically I really do like the molded thumb ledge for the weak hand; elsewise everything just feels like a slightly tweaked Glock. Regarding that ledge, with a Glock that same thumb of mine instead rides on top of the bulbous lump in the frame about where the takedown lever resides, always in contact against the left side of the slide. That's never caused any problems during live fire but I'd rather not have the chance of anything untoward happening at all just by me having my thumb perched up against the slide. Unlike most folks I like the standard Glock goalpost rear sight and shoot very well with it; I just wish they shipped their guns with the steel version rather than the placeholder plastic one.

I like many of the various Shadow models but not enough to actually want one or more significantly pay their usual premium for that privilege.

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Originally posted by Blackwater:
As much as I liked Glock G19, I would never go back after getting my MR920 Combat.

As much as I liked my Shadows (I had three MR918s, one MR920, and a CR920) I did sell them off a couple of years ago and went back to the 19, albeit a Wilson Combat Vickers Elite Gen 5 19 (actually two of them). Very happy with them too.

But with that said, I found myself looking around at another MR920 and CR920 over the last few days, haven't decided yet if I'm going to go that route or pick up something else though.

Good guns!