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5-shot revolver. If not dead, on life support?

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October 16, 2017, 11:32 AM
LimaCharlie
5-shot revolver. If not dead, on life support?
I don't own any snub-nose five-shot revolvers. I carry a Sig P938 as a BUG in my right-front pants pocket. A five shot-revolver looks like I have a pregnant hamster in my pocket while the Sig P938 can be mistaken for a cell phone.

I do own a six-shot 2 1/2" Colt Python and a six-shot 2" Colt Cobra shipped in 1952 because I collect Colts. My most often conceal carried revolvers are a 4" Colt Python .357 magnum or a 4" S&W 29-2 .44 magnum on my belt.


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October 16, 2017, 12:46 PM
YooperSigs
Just checked the vital signs of my 642.
Still with me!


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October 16, 2017, 02:10 PM
Ironmike57
I think either of those will get the job done!

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Originally posted by LimaCharlie:


My most often conceal carried revolvers are a 4" Colt Python .357 magnum or a 4" S&W 29-2 .44 magnum on my belt.

October 17, 2017, 05:25 PM
fyimo
I have a pre S&W Model 36 Flat Latch 5 shot revolver that I carry in my pants pocket or in my Motorcycle Vest Pocket. It's not dead yet and it's not going anywhere.



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November 03, 2017, 07:03 PM
Rexster
I will not disagree with the OP, because he is seeing what people are buying, today, in real time. I really love both revolvers and auto-loaders. My first handgun, in 1982 or 1983, was a 1911, but I learned to love revolvers when I was required to carry them, on and off the clock, as a rookie police officer.

Regarding the absence of revolvers in training classes, well, revolvers are a hindrance during high-volume-fire training, especially if the residue from dirty-burning ammo starts gumming-up the works. Few training classes are truly revolver-neutral, so the revolver shooters are constantly playing catch-up. I would rather arrive at a class with a massive quantity of magazines, pre-loaded, to minimize the distraction of stuffing ammo into magazines or cylinders, and to better hear what the instructor is likely to be saying.

Regarding the weapons, themselves, J-Snubs are, literally, a pain, for my aging hands. I prefer the larger SP101, and absolutely love the hand-filling GP100. I rarely carry my one J-Snub, because it is usually smaller than necessary.

For the sake of my aging, aching hands, and the times I do need something quite small to carry, I may be about to try a G42. This could potentially relegate my J-Snub to the safe.

My larger revolvers are still important, to me, and about to be more so, as I will soon retire from LEO-ing, and spending much more time in rural areas. Indeed, my most-recent acquisition is a pre-owned Wiley Clapp edition 3” GP100, with a nicely-bobbed spurless hammer. A spur-less revolver seems to be an ideal grandpa gun, as I will be carrying infant and toddler grandsons more of the time.


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November 26, 2017, 05:13 PM
Gambit
I love magnum revolvers and always will. The only non-magnum revolver I own is a model 36, which I like very much, but I now seldom use it for self protection.

My wife also owns a model 36 and refuses to give it up as her go to pistol.

That being said, we are older humans that grew up in the revolver age. I believe the 5 shot revolver is on life support.


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November 26, 2017, 07:19 PM
sns3guppy
Just put another s&w j-frame 5 shot revolver on layaway yesterday, while picking up two other handguns.

Several revolvers purchased in the last few months, carried in the last few days.

It just doesn't feel dead or on life support. I keep finding them for sale, and keep buying them. So do others. And darn it, someone keeps making them. Just handled several nice Kimber revolvers yesterday, too. They didn't feel on life support, either.
November 26, 2017, 08:32 PM
andronicus
Just handled a S&W 640 Pro. Liked it very much. Was going to buy it until I noticed the JJ marked 226 in the case for $479 on consignment.

I don't seen the 5 shot revolver going anywhere. Colt would not have brought the Cobra back (yes, I know it holds six)if there was no market for it. Same with that overpriced Kimber revolver.
November 26, 2017, 10:10 PM
signewt
Oddly the J frames all fit well in my own pocket....yet such as the 317 are just too damn light;

the 36 I had for some time didn't like to go bare and repeatedly snagged the hammer on practice retrievals; it was a marvelous shooting platform.

Any of the Sub 18 oz. Js are just to annoying to shoot regardless of how effortless they carry....or am I missing something that should be looked at?

My vintage 4" Diamondback is a marvel but begins to resemble some kind of tumor in the pocket.

I have yet to become content with any belt carry anything in public.

There's some 380 autos that fit well enough in pocket. The PPK/s models seem just a little pudgy to remain unobvious. What to do what to do....


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November 27, 2017, 05:44 AM
18DAI
I would suggest finding a S&W CS9. 8 rounds of 9mm in a 380 sized package.

Mine is a joy to carry. It is small, light weight, bet your life reliable and accurate. It fits in the front pocket of my cargo pants and tacticals using a DeSantis Nemesis holster and a mag with a flat basepad.

They can be difficult to find ascthey are out of print. The current company calling itself s&w preferring to push out cheap striker fired junk. Good luck! Regards 18DAI


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November 27, 2017, 05:50 AM
springer99
AFAIC, when I decided to switch from IWB or belt carry to pocket carry, my P938 and 1911's went into storage and the J frames came back out. Yes, my 938 did fit my front pocket well but, I couldn't always pull it quickly. Those blocky edges always got in the way and no matter what I did, it still showed a pistol shape in my pocket. The little J frames are a bit wider due to the cylinder but pull like a greased pig without fail and really don't look like a firearm in the pocket.

Plus the manual of arms on a revolver is SO much simpler than an auto. Want to fire it???.... just pull the trigger and keep pulling it.
November 27, 2017, 04:52 PM
BBMW
As opposed to, say, a Glock 43?

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Plus the manual of arms on a revolver is SO much simpler than an auto. Want to fire it???.... just pull the trigger and keep pulling it.

November 27, 2017, 06:23 PM
Cobra21
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Originally posted by BBMW:
As opposed to, say, a Glock 43?

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Plus the manual of arms on a revolver is SO much simpler than an auto. Want to fire it???.... just pull the trigger and keep pulling it.


Ya' as opposed to the need for the firing pin to initiate and the recoil spring to be firm enough to drive the slide while the extractor firmly grabs the rim of the cartridge to hit the extractor correctly to eject the round and the the mag spring to be firm enough to ensure that the new round does not nose dive and jam the round.

Yup, as opposed to a Glock 43.


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November 28, 2017, 10:04 AM
BBMW
Point of order, that's may be how it internally operates, but that isn't manual of arms. Manual of arms is the human interaction with the gun.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_of_arms

So once loaded and ready to fire, as they would be in a holster or pocket, the manual of arms is the same, aim and pull the trigger.

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Originally posted by Cobra21:
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Originally posted by BBMW:
As opposed to, say, a Glock 43?

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Plus the manual of arms on a revolver is SO much simpler than an auto. Want to fire it???.... just pull the trigger and keep pulling it.


Ya' as opposed to the need for the firing pin to initiate and the recoil spring to be firm enough to drive the slide while the extractor firmly grabs the rim of the cartridge to hit the extractor correctly to eject the round and the the mag spring to be firm enough to ensure that the new round does not nose dive and jam the round.

Yup, as opposed to a Glock 43.

November 28, 2017, 10:23 AM
Vero8
I'll carry my SP101 from time to time. since I only carry concealed my choice of hand gun is somewhat dictated by wardrobe and whim.



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November 28, 2017, 10:46 AM
Opus Dei
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Have not seen you post here in a long time. Nice to see you back.
November 29, 2017, 12:06 AM
Vero8
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Originally posted by Vero8:
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Have not seen you post here in a long time. Nice to see you back.

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Thanks Opus, I lurk more than post these days but I'm still around Cool


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November 29, 2017, 12:38 AM
newmexican
Our sp101 sees near daily use and is still going strong. My dads edc is an LCR.
November 29, 2017, 04:44 PM
sixgunner455
I bought a 642-2 in 2004, and carried it in a horsehide pocket holster or SmartCarry daily for over ten years as my only carry gun. And it looks it. Eventually, I bought an ankle holster to add that choice.

I tried running the little beast in a couple of matches. It was interesting and fun, but also educational.

Easy to carry. Hard to shoot both fast and well at the same time; slow to reload; small ammo capacity on tap. My wife hates shooting it. My daughter doesn't mind it. Both prefer the G42, and I'm warming up to the idea. Been carrying a couple of different guns, experimenting with a more capable shooter to replace it with, and have for now settled on the G26 for edc. More than double the capacity, gets the gun out of my pocket, easy to shoot fast and well. People act like I'm crazy to like it so much as opposed to a G19 or G17, but I'm not replacing a big gun that stays home all the time, I'm replacing a little gun I'll actually carry all the time.

One reason I'm contemplating getting a couple more G42s (one for my pocket gun, one for my daughter) is because I hate shooting heavy bullets and anything +P through the 642. It got to the point I'd only shoot 130 gr FMJ, 125 gr lead softball loads, 105 gr lead bunny fart loads, or 125 gr Gold Dot standard pressure loads, and I started looking at the numbers, and ... .380 loads give up little, if anything, to that level of .38 Special loading.

I still like the gun, but if somebody offered me a straight trade for a G42? It'd be hard to turn down.


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November 29, 2017, 10:11 PM
kalford
It started about two years ago when my Kimber micro went back to Yonkers for repairs. It came back still not running 100% and was subsequently sold. I was finally over the pocket auto craze. My CS9 was eating the plastic and now discontinued recoil spring guide rod. I had tried an xds 45 that would randomly fail to return to battery and a Kahr pm9 that would shed rounds from the spare magazine. I tried a micro desert eagle that provided slide bite and tried to learn the false reset on the original LCP. My Sig p238 had the front sight walk off the slide and I am sure that I am forgetting one or two.

Anyway, I bought a 438 and discovered some previously unknown to me advantages. One being that without a slide, it took much less effort to conceal. The right angle at the rear of a slide always required special considerations on my part.

Second, after some use, no trigger job mind you but honest usage allowing the contact surfaces to smooth themselves, the trigger proved exceptionally smooth.

Third, a spare speed strip proved easier to carry and required less maintenance than a magazine.

I still had the single action option and had found my unicorn as the industry appears to be purposefully denying us smaller da/sa options. I quickly purchased a Ruger SP101 with a brass bead front sight and Novak style rears as I began to take the idea of carrying a 5 shot snubby more seriously.

And I couldn't be happier!