I’d try some hotter ammo. My 19x has never choked but some of the weaker stuff was not ejecting with much vigor in the beginning. The gun loves 124 NATO type stuff.

If I were closer to Florida I would let you try one of mine.

Let us know how it works out.

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Glock doesn't lubricate their firearms when they're sent out. Glock puts anti-seize in them, which should be removed, and the pistol lubricated, before firing

The copper anti seize that is put in Glock pistols should NOT be removed. It should be allowed to be shot out of the pistol.

I would suggest firming up your grip, your slide short cycling may be due to your shooting with a "softer" grip that permits more muzzle flip. A simple fact is that we all lose strength in our wrists and hands as we age and some of us also suffer from Arthritis. End result is we don't squeeze a grip as hard as we used to simply because we don't think about doing this. What we do is use 60-80% of our peak strength because that is what we have always done. End result is a "soft" grip. On a brand spanking new gun that may be enough to tip it into short cycling and it's something the factory won't observe because they have 20 somethings doing their test shooting.

So try shooting with a firmer grip just to see if that will solve your issue. If so it's a free fix and probably won't be necessary too long as you get the gun broken in.

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I will lube it good

That caught my eye. Unless something changed in Gen5, Glocks function with very little lube. https://www.glockparts.com/lubrication-points.htm

Also, check you're owner's manual. I think sw4566 is correct about not removing the factory anti seize

Page 26 of the current glock owners manual states:

Your GLOCK pistol should be cleaned and lubricated as follows:
1. when brand new, before first time it is fired, plus
2. after each time it is fired, plus
3. as required. This will be determined by your pistol's exposure to adverse conditions during storage or use such as rain, snow, perspiration, salt water, dirt, dust, lint, etc. Additionally, your pistol should be cleaned and inspected if it has been dropped or if any broken parts are suspected or malfunctions experienced, plus
4. at least once a year.

https://us.glock.com/-/media/G...rt-51092-072020.ashx

Page 28 of the same manual states:

SLIDE: (Note: The copper colored lubricant on portions of the slide of brand new GLOCK pistols is intended to help provide long-term lubrication and should not be removed).

It goes on to direct the user to wipe out the slide rail cuts, and every other part of the slide.

Glock never intended the end user to lubricate the pistol with antiseize, which is a lubricant only intended for low speed, applications in threaded surfaces. It's there from the manufacturer as a form of idiot-proofing, as there are users who will never clean and lubricate the pistol...though it's the first thing Glock tells the user to do, before it's ever fired.

If a user removes the antiseize and lubricates the pistol, it's no problem whatsoever.

Glock also warns against using more than minimal lubrication, as the lubrication collects burned powder and debris, and can contribute to malfunctions. I've fired several thousand rounds at a time without a malfunction, and I grease the ever living shit out of my pistols, and always remove the antiseize as part of the initial clean and lube of the pistol.

Generally, I clean the pistols and re-lubricate them after every use, and I bleieve one should, but there are a LOT of shooters that don't, and some that never do.

There are far better lubricants than antiseize. In fact, almost any lubricant is better for moving parts on a handgun, than antiseize. Anti-seize stays put: it's there for the lowest common denominator in ownership, because Glock knows that it may be all that some pistols get. It doesn't run out or migrate when the pistol sits in a box on the shelf, unlike better lubricants. It tends to stay viable for longer periods, so makes for longer term storage, so something is there.

Ditch the antiseize, and use more than minimal lubrication.

Actually the Glock factory “copper” grease, is available from several manufacturers. It is a high temp (approx. 1700 degrees f) petroleum based grease with a mixture of copper and graphite. The slight “abrasive” quality of it is to help “wear in” the frame rails to the slide.

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Originally posted by dubagel:
Actually the Glock factory “copper” grease, is available from several manufacturers. It is a high temp (approx. 1700 degrees f) petroleum based grease with a mixture of copper and graphite. The slight “abrasive” quality of it is to help “wear in” the frame rails to the slide.

It's antiseize.

And yet, Glock directs the users to clean the rails and rail cuts and wipe them clean before lubricating again.

There is no need to "wear in" the rails.

The antiseize compound is designed to prevent stuck bolts.

OP, you're actually not alone. About six months ago we sold a 19X to a customer that right out of the box was a jam-o-matic. He normally carries a G19, currently owns two or three other Glock models and is generally well-versed on the brand. He had someone at West Coast Armory shoot the gun: same maddening results. He did say that he didn't clean the gun before going to the range, just like he's done in the past with his other Glocks. Upon field stripping and visual inspection, I had suggested that he go ahead and clean and relube the gun even though its internals looked quite normal to me, at least for a Glock that's had a relatively light number of rounds through it. There was no signs of burrs or any unusual wear or damage with any of the contact surfaces. The racking pressure seemed normal so if I were pressed I would've said that the RSA felt in-spec. The only thing that I didn't inspect was the magazines; he forgot to bring them in with the pistol. This happened a few months ago so I'm guessing that because he hasn't been back that the problems might have cleared up.

As for the anti-seize that Glock applies to their guns at the factory: I've ALWAYS left it in the gun for the first few hundred rounds through it. It's NEVER been a problem doing so for any of the 18 to 20 Glocks that I own (and have owned). I'd learned of this many years ago and haven't deviated since. Our then-Glock rep from a few years back had casually mentioned this recommendation when another employee brought up a question about the anti-seize, more or less confirming what I'd already been doing was fine.

Thanks for that. I own 7 Glocks and have never had a problem. So this one was particularly frustrating. The funny thing was that I sold a 19x that I owned to a friend that REALLY wanted it. It worked perfectly and I decided to replace it. I regret that but my friend is happy.

I have not been able to get back out. I will shoot the gun some more and see if the problem will "work itself out." If it does not, I will sent it back to Glock.

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Originally posted by monoblok:
OP, you're actually not alone. About six months ago we sold a 19X to a customer that right out of the box was a jam-o-matic. He normally carries a G19, currently owns two or three other Glock models and is generally well-versed on the brand. He had someone at West Coast Armory shoot the gun: same maddening results. He did say that he didn't clean the gun before going to the range, just like he's done in the past with his other Glocks. Upon field stripping and visual inspection, I had suggested that he go ahead and clean and relube the gun even though its internals looked quite normal to me, at least for a Glock that's had a relatively light number of rounds through it. There was no signs of burrs or any unusual wear or damage with any of the contact surfaces. The racking pressure seemed normal so if I were pressed I would've said that the RSA felt in-spec. The only thing that I didn't inspect was the magazines; he forgot to bring them in with the pistol. This happened a few months ago so I'm guessing that because he hasn't been back that the problems might have cleared up.

As for the anti-seize that Glock applies to their guns at the factory: I've ALWAYS left it in the gun for the first few hundred rounds through it. It's NEVER been a problem doing so for any of the 18 to 20 Glocks that I own (and have owned). I'd learned of this many years ago and haven't deviated since. Our then-Glock rep from a few years back had casually mentioned this recommendation when another employee brought up a question about the anti-seize, more or less confirming what I'd already been doing was fine.

This thread must make the Glock fanboys crazy that their beloved Glock is having problems. That said, I purchased my first Glock (a 19X) last week after purchasing some 50+ other handguns over the years.

Looking forward to the update after you run it again.

More than anything, thanks for being patient with those who did not recognize from the jump that this was not your first Glock rodeo.