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| In our classes, and my time with TeamSIG, I have seen exactly one malfunction with the Checkmate magazines. It appeared to be from where the mag had been dropped. SIG uses both manufacturers to provide magazines. When you walk down the assembly line, you see boxes of both. |
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| I haven't heard of any issues with CHECKMATE in the P320. They must have improved upon their magazines from earlier SIG Classic offerings. FWIW, even DAN WESSON uses CHECKMATE in their custom pistols.
If people would mind their own damn business this country would be better off. I owe no one an explanation or an apology for my personal opinion.
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| I recall the P320 USA mag issue being discussed here last year. Many reacted the same as you did. However, none of the posters on those threads reported any problems with the P320 Checkmates. From the posts, it's apparently a random thing as to whether you get Italy or USA mags with a new P320. Or even ordered directly from a vendor. Consistent with what Jones posted. IIRC, the original problem Checkmate experienced several years back was due to improper heat treatment. It's pretty much ancient history now, but the rap lives on. I personally own about 17 P320 mags, all Italian Mec-Gars. The ones I bought from TGS a few months ago were made in Italy. Since I don't have any Checkmates, I can't give you a visual on them.
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| quote: Originally posted by Nipper:
I recall the P320 USA mag issue being discussed here last year. Many reacted the same as you did. However, none of the posters on those threads reported any problems with the P320 Checkmates. From the posts, it's apparently a random thing as to whether you get Italy or USA mags with a new P320. Or even ordered directly from a vendor. Consistent with what Jones posted.
IIRC, the original problem Checkmate experienced several years back was due to improper heat treatment. It's pretty much ancient history now, but the rap lives on.
I personally own about 17 P320 mags, all Italian Mec-Gars. The ones I bought from TGS a few months ago were made in Italy. Since I don't have any Checkmates, I can't give you a visual on them.
Nipper do you have a link to those discussions? |
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| I haven't seen any problems with Checkmate mags, but the Mec-Gar branded mage are usually a good bit cheaper. (the Sig Sauer branded Mec-Gar mags are the same price as Checkmate) |
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| quote: Originally posted by SIGWALLY:
......Nipper do you have a link to those discussions?
No. Even if I did, they've probably all been deleted. It was a couple of years ago...maybe longer.
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| I have both. Only difference I see is the USA mags have slightly stiffer springs when new. Loading that last round in is extremely difficult. Italian mags were still stiff but took the final round without risking a sprained thumb.
Functionally, I've seen no difference. I did NOT like the Checkmate mags for my 226. Admittedly, that was as much a cosmetic issue (floorplate) as it was the rumors of potential reliability issues. I've got several that get used as range mags without problems. |
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| quote: Originally posted by copaup:
I have both. Only difference I see is the USA mags have slightly stiffer springs when new. Loading that last round in is extremely difficult. Italian mags were still stiff but took the final round without risking a sprained thumb.
Functionally, I've seen no difference. I did NOT like the Checkmate mags for my 226. Admittedly, that was as much a cosmetic issue (floorplate) as it was the rumors of potential reliability issues. I've got several that get used as range mags without problems.
My P229-1 mags are very stiff. I'm wondering if I have the USA mags. |
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