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August 06, 2018, 11:14 AM
shoevb
West German excellence
Thanks for sharing the beautiful pictures and especially some history on these fine guns.
August 06, 2018, 05:11 PM
Cookster
Those are magnificent!

The workmanship, machining, fit and finish, etc., looks incredible!!

The 'Faberge Egg' of pistols!!

Thank you for sharing!!

Rob
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August 06, 2018, 06:46 PM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:
It is always interesting to see how gun design reflects the dogma and doctrine of its day. While it may be unfair to judge a gun without having ever shot or even held it, I believe I see at least a couple design features that would be less than ideal in today's understanding and emphasis on ergonomics.

I'd bet that thin grooved trigger might be a tad hard on the trigger finger after several rounds.

Also, and again its unfair to categorically state this based on only seeing two samples, but I believe that perhaps Herr Korth may have found ways to improve upon his already high quality initial offerings observed in the later one.

It's also interesting that Herr Korth chose to update the trigger guard to reflect the trend of the time, but elected to stay with a single stack design instead of transitioning to the "Wonder 9" trend also popular at that time...although admittedly that would have required a major design change.

I'm always interested to see how different manufacturers implement their respective level of quality in their designs. Might we see some pictures of the gun field stripped and its inner workings?

quote:
Originally posted by pessimist:
Wow! Exquisite.


That is precisely my impression as well...exquisite!


Its not an updated trigger guard. Those two are only a year apart and there are much later examples with the rounded guard. They did them both ways.
August 06, 2018, 08:29 PM
JBird679
quote:
Originally posted by bac1023:

Any idea what else came from the factory in the empty cutouts in the box? Something boring like a cleaning kit, or something more interesting?
August 06, 2018, 08:32 PM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by JBird679:
quote:
Originally posted by bac1023:

Any idea what else came from the factory in the empty cutouts in the box? Something boring like a cleaning kit, or something more interesting?


Nothing

Optional barrels could be ordered (both long length and standard, hence the longer cut out), but generally weren’t. In fact, I don't think they were even offered yet with the early guns. The cases were made for ideas in the future.

Even one I've seen pictures of, the cut outs were empty.
August 06, 2018, 09:34 PM
Modern Day Savage
quote:
Originally posted by bac1023:
Its not an updated trigger guard. Those two are only a year apart and there are much later examples with the rounded guard. They did them both ways.


Ah ok. I noticed the close proximity of the build dates, but didn't realize that later builds were still available with the earlier style trigger guard. Thanks for clearifying that.
August 06, 2018, 10:47 PM
Excam_Man
Damn, that's nice!




August 06, 2018, 11:09 PM
ontmark
Beautiful!!!

Thanks for sharing



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August 07, 2018, 12:13 AM
Greymann
Very nice for sure, I had never saw one before now thanks for sharing. Is the barrel fixed?
August 07, 2018, 06:43 AM
raggedhole
Now if you could snag one or two of the optional detachable shoulder stocks the set would be complete.
Beautiful Korth Pistols.

Racoon reaching through fence....


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August 07, 2018, 09:20 AM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by raggedhole:
Now if you could snag one or two of the optional detachable shoulder stocks the set would be complete.
Beautiful Korth Pistols.

Racoon reaching through fence....


Thanks

As for the shoulder stocks, that would be quite a task considering they built about three of them.
August 07, 2018, 09:36 AM
fritz
bac -- It's always a pleasure seeing arms from your collection.
August 07, 2018, 09:45 AM
Hany
Really, thanks for posting these pics! I have never seen pics of such quality and detail. All I have seen over the years have been grainy "copied from a book" type images.
August 17, 2018, 11:13 PM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by Hany:
Really, thanks for posting these pics! I have never seen pics of such quality and detail. All I have seen over the years have been grainy "copied from a book" type images.


Yes sir

I figured to show the "real thing". Its sometimes good to know the guns actually exist apart from pictures in books.

Thanks to everyone for the kind words. Smile
August 18, 2018, 12:43 PM
jjkroll32
True industrial art


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August 18, 2018, 09:06 PM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by Greymann:
Very nice for sure, I had never saw one before now thanks for sharing. Is the barrel fixed?


Sorry, missed the question

No sir, its not a fixed barrel. It moves with the frame briefly. It doesn't tilt though. Its a falling block design.
August 19, 2018, 10:46 AM
Rocco
Thanks for sharing those works of art.
August 19, 2018, 04:06 PM
JonFrost
Wow, those are all amazing. Thank you for the write up and the pics. I am curious why you say it's not as accurate as a p210 etc? Is it the gun itself is not mechanically accurate or capable of great accuracy, or do you mean it's more difficult to shoot accurately?


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August 20, 2018, 05:02 AM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by JonFrost:
Wow, those are all amazing. Thank you for the write up and the pics. I am curious why you say it's not as accurate as a p210 etc? Is it the gun itself is not mechanically accurate or capable of great accuracy, or do you mean it's more difficult to shoot accurately?


Thanks

I would say both. The bore axis is high for my tastes.
October 06, 2018, 10:00 PM
bac1023
Thanks everyone.

I recently took both Korth Autopistols to the range. I couldn't help but shoot my new one. I put several rounds through each of them and was very impressed. The triggers are very smooth and the reset is extremely short. Accuracy was much better than I remembered. I guess I just needed some more trigger time with the model.

They shoot incredibly softly too. I love them.

I definitely short changed it in the OP.