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Friend who is new to guns has discovered that he likes the 1911 pistol. I had him shoot my nice old Colt that had a 4-4.25# trigger by Kings Gun works. He liked so well that he bought a standard Government Colt and quickly bent the sear spring to achieve a 3.5-3.75# trigger pull according to his spiffy new Lyman gauge. The problem is that the creep and glitch in the trigger pull is still there. Neither one of us has the training or materials to properly fit the sear and hammer. Personally I have always sought out top notch gunsmith and happy to pay the skilled labor rate, especially for trigger work. This seems to be an educational process. | ||
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He needs to be careful or he will be in for an unwelcome surprise. If you bend the the sear spring too much you will cause hammer follow. You may not get it every time, but you will certainly get it. A real 1911 "trigger job" is done by adjusting the nose of the sear and how it engages with the hammer hooks. Do it wrong and you ruin the parts. It takes time and skill. There is a reason that real gunsmiths charge a pretty penny for it. Proverbs 28:1 | |||
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The 1911 pistol is a unique breed in which there are no real "drop in" kits to adjust trigger pull,reset,etc., like on other guns. Like the other poster said, if you do something wrong in a 1911 pistol, it could have a serious issue and cost you more in the long run. | |||
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I would recommend he purchase 'The Colt .45 Automatic, A Shop Manual' by Jerry Kuhnhausen. After seeing what goes into a proper trigger job, it may convince him to pay for a proper trigger job. If he is a tinkerer, there is plenty in that book that he can do. Tony | |||
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I have done 1 hachet job and 1 trigger job to my 1911 many years back. The guns sear and hammer I messed up looking for a lighter pull. Darn pistol would double every time after. I put it away and ordered new Ed Brown hardcore sear and hammer. Read up on how it is correctly done, reading was before youtube, bought a nice stoning fixture, quality stones and ended up with a trigger which bested my Jimmy Clark .38 wadcutter gun. Had no hammer push off and all my safties functioned properly. Learn how its done before doing or send it to a qualified smith. | |||
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Great book. | |||
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When you fall, I will be there to catch you -With love, the floor |
Years back a very well known gun writer had a trigger job done on his 1911. He also had the grip safety pinned. Was he surprised when it went full auto and dropping it didn't stop it. Thankfully there were only a few rounds in the magazine. True gunsmiths capable of tuning a 1911 properly are far and few between. These days most are simply parts changers. That's why a quality custom 1911 costs as much as they do. | |||
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Nighthawk Custom offers a unitized drop in trigger for the 1911. Costs about half of new low end 1911, but.... It drops in! End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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I've installed numerous trigger kits from Cylinder and Slide and KC Custom Creations. If you can punch pins you can install a trigger kit. _____________________________ 'I'm pretty fly for a white guy'. | |||
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Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished |
I put a C&S trigger kit in my 1911. They offer a number of different pull weights. I did also fit a new thumb safety but with the correct file it was easy. | |||
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I've been cutting 1911 sears for 30 years. I never bend any of the springs, but I do smooth the ends of them that makes a HUGE difference in itself. I have the jigs and stone sets to cut the sear. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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You're going to feel a little pressure... |
Just what I needed. Another book ordered Bruce | |||
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I've used Cylinder & Slide Drop in trigger sets with mostly success. I did try an ultra lite set and it had some consistency issues so I bumped it down to the tactical model and it worked much better. On other pistols like Sig, HK I work them but never cut any 1911 ones. ymmv | |||
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You're going to feel a little pressure... |
I'm going to get a Cylinder and Slide Tactical trigger upgrade set for my TRP. I will have a gunsmith install it. The one I use only recommended that company. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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