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The rise of the very expensive Glock pistol has me scratching my head. It's not that I don't value an expensive gun. In fact, just the opposite. I have a few very nice 1911s, revolvers, and rifles that make me look really good at the range. And modifications such a beavertail or front strap checking for a 1911, or a nice stock on an AR-15 make a world of difference in how the gun handles.

But I don't get the really expensive Glock thing because they do not seem to perform any better than a stock Glock with a light trigger job. At least none that I've handled so far. And that's what baffles me. In fact, I've never seen anyone "prove" that a $2000 full custom Glock shoots better than a $500 + $200 in parts.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against customizing a Glock. I've swapped out the trigger in my G19 for a non-serrated one, installed HD sights, and wrapped my grip in the Agrip felt because I have sweaty hands. I've also trimmed the slide stop a bit because I kept hitting it with my left hand, and done a light polish job on the internals for smoothness. All in, probably about $200 including labor and shipping. And it shoots...about as well as a Glock. I've done similar things to my G34 and even reduced the spring tension so that the trigger is somewhere around 3 lbs. But again, that's a $20 spring kit, a $15 connector, and a $5 bottle of Flitz.

But has anyone actually taken a shot timer to one of these guns or taken a sampling of say 50 shots at distance? Are they faster, more accurate, or more comfortable to shoot? Or is it all just cosmetics and they're just pretty to look at?


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People will buy a new Lexus and put Gold wheels on it. They'll pull the interior out and make it Gold too. Their money, so have at it, but I don't see the point.

Ze Glock needs a non-serrated trigger, NS, and a bunch of rounds down the barrel. So for my opinion, the $2k Glock is not my cup of tea. I'd be a better shooter and more accurate with the $500 Glock and $1500 worth of ammunition through it. In today's prices that's about 7500 rounds.



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Para, I'm not angry enough to browse the "What's Your Deal" forum regularly Smile

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This one absolutely was worth every penny of $2100

 
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At least with Glock, you have a solid base of "Fan Boi's" that will gladly cough up the $2K so that they can have the ultimate tupperware pistol.

Now, if it were Hi-Point, my eyebrows would be raised.


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This one absolutely was worth every penny of $2100



That is not a Glock : )


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This one absolutely was worth every penny of $2100



That is not a Glock : )

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Frame isn't -- hence not a Glock Smile

I had a CCF a while back. They're interesting if somewhat finicky. The Lone Wolf Timberwolf looks interesting though if I ever were to go down that road again.


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Are $2000 Glocks Worth It?

Yes, to those who are into it.
No, to the rest.


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It probably depends on what $2000 is worth to you. To some people that's an enormous amount. To others not so much. I'd tend to side with no but
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I've been on both sides of this one.

Bought a 21 that had a Burris with it. Traded parts around and was able to convert it to .38 Super. Out of pocket cost: $350.

Traded a Taurus for a Gen2. Threw in a Salient trigger and converted it to a 9. Got about $800 in it now.

Found a deal on a Salient BLU. Wanted a RMR on that one also. This one was about $1800.

They cost a heck of a lot more when you don't have any other parts to sell or trade.



 
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I think it is great for the industry in general, although I wouldn't spend that. If you know where to look you can put together a custom Glock with a lot of add-ons for much less than $2,000.00. People use to say the same thing about 1911 pistols, are they worth it? If people want to do it, have at it. I have one and can say that the work/money I have into it makes a night and day difference compared to a base model( I have a couple plain Glocks as well). It is a fun gun for me and allows me to shoot different ammo. and the triggers offered are much more comfortable than even the standard smooth Glock triggers. I also don't think you can count the cost of a RMR or other dot sight into the cost factor of the pistol as you can always use it on another gun,provided you have the right mount.
 
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Barrel, trigger assembly, RSA, mags, slide and frame parts are Big Grin
If the frame is not a Glock, it's not a Glock.


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I've been on both sides of this one.

Bought a 21 that had a Burris with it. Traded parts around and was able to convert it to .38 Super. Out of pocket cost: $350.

Traded a Taurus for a Gen2. Threw in a Salient trigger and converted it to a 9. Got about $800 in it now.

Found a deal on a Salient BLU. Wanted a RMR on that one also. This one was about $1800.

They cost a heck of a lot more when you don't have any other parts to sell or trade.


So how does the Salient BLU shoot compared to your Gen 2? I can say without a shadow of a doubt that an $1800 1911 such as a Dan Wesson Valor will be more accurate and easier to shoot than an $800 Springfield Loaded model. And test after test has proven this, everything from a Ransom Rest to having a pro with repeatable performance demonstrate faster shooting, reloading, etc. Is the same true for the Salient, Zev, and others?


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You can build your own and spend about $1000 less.

So far I'm in just over $1000 on this gun including the price of the base gun and RMR. I did all the work myself including the stippling.


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At least with Glock, you have a solid base of "Fan Boi's" that will gladly cough up the $2K so that they can have the ultimate tupperware pistol.

Now, if it were Hi-Point, my eyebrows would be raised.


I don't know what a "fan boi" is, but I own one safe with nothing but Glocks. Plus quite a few in another safe, and just bought several more. I carry them, shoot them. I am not an expert in them, but I appreciate their simplicity and most of all, reliability, plus the fact that they can run two hundred thousand rounds. I am not a "fan boi," whatever that might be.

While I would never dictate what the next guy should spend on his firearms, let alone what he should value, buy, or carry, I wouldn't have any use for a two thousand dollar Glock. I can buy five used stock ones for that cost, put the sights on them that I want, replace any internals I think might warrant (new springs, etc), and shoot them for many years to come.

There are shooters here who could eek out a hundredth extra time with the right firearm, perhaps, but I suspect that has a whole lot more to do with the shooter than with the pistol.

I will spend a hundred fifty for a set of Trijicon HD sights. I'll spend for ten spare magazines. On a few of my Glocks, I've even spent on a minimalist mag well because it doesn't hinder reliability, feels good in my hand, protects the mag well, and it works...but two thousand? I'd have to be a competitor with very specific requirements, I'd think.

I don't know if they're worth it, but I'm quite certain a two thousand dollar Glock would be wasted on me.
 
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Its incredible easy to get to $2K if you are going to have an RMR on the gun, suppressor sights, milling and a few mags.
If those aren't in the equation then its silly.


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To me, no. Just like multi thousand dollar 1911s aren't worth it.

To me.

But people buy 'em. Somebody must think that they're worth it.
 
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