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One of my shooting buddies asked me to help him install the new Timney Alpha Glock Trigger kit in his GEN-3 G35. He uses the pistol to shoot USPSA and Steel Matches. This is really a departure from typical Glock internals. The overall design is extremely innovative and gives the user the ability to simply drop in the parts without any polishing or adjusting and get a perfectly crisp trigger. You also have the ability to mix and match the firing pin spring weights and different connectors to give you different trigger pull weight characteristics. It’s a simple install. Snap the little red trigger module into the factory Glock trigger housing and snug up the set screw on the bottom. Then slip the new trigger bar on top of the sear of the new trigger module and stick that assembly into the handgun frame. There is a small torsion spring that acts as the trigger return spring. That is then placed over a shoulder on the side of the trigger, one leg pushes against the trigger body and the other leg pushes against the underside of the locking block or the locking block pin (depending on what Gen gun you have). The install of this spring is easier on the Gen5 guns, on the Gen3 it took a little fiddling. At first we tried it with is existing set up, which was a Ghost 3.5 connector and 4# firing pin spring. The trigger was just ridiculously light, and I didn’t test it with the Lyman Digital gauge because it was stupid light. We took it apart again and installed the factory minus connector from the G35, the factory 5 1/2 pound firing pin spring, and the factory firing pin plunger spring. This put us at 2 lbs. 10 oz., to 2 lbs. 13 oz. on average. He considered this too light for his shooting style and wanted to get up around the 3 to 3 1/4 pound range. I went into my shop and looked through my parts and I had a Glock Miami connector (+) which is rated at 8 pounds. I matched this with a 6 pound firing pin spring and we tried it again. This gave us 4lbs7oz to 4lbs11oz on average. We tried again now using the standard Dot connector which is 5.5#, along with a 6# Ghost spring. This gave us 2lbs15oz to 3lbs1oz on average. Finally we tried the standard Dot 5.5# connector with the standard 5.5# firing pin spring. This gave us 2lbs10oz to 2lbs13oz on average. The trigger pull is very nice for a drop in kit. It’s very crisp. There is typical trigger freeplay until you hit a very defined wall and then a very crisp break with short over travel. The reset is short also. We fired it on a falling plate rack at the range and the gun performed very well. The only issue that I personally saw was that the trigger reset seemed to be weak and it was because of that small torsion spring probably being too weak. I looked inside and decided I was going to get the specs on the spring and see if a heavier action spring was available from one of the industrial supply houses. I didn’t have his gun to measure the spring so I decided I would call Timney to see if they had any specs on it. The gentleman I spoke to was a great guy. We chatted about my experiences with the trigger and spring replacement to give different pull results. He was very interested in customer feedback. We discussed the reset spring and he said that they found that they also considered the spring a little light and they had a new heavier spring made up. He offered to send me some to try in the gun and give feedback. The new springs have a purple color to differentiate them with the original metal colored weaker springs. I purchased another kit, this time for the Gen-5 Models. I installed the GEN-5 kit in my Glock 34 and installed the original week spring. The gun function fine but after replacing it with the new heavier purple spring it was markedly better. Overall I think the design is a game changer for Glock pistols. I’d really be surprised if Glock Inc. didn’t buy the patent for this and come out with a GEN-6 featuring this trigger system. As I said above,the trigger has a little bit of play and then you hit a hard wall and it’s got a super short and crisp break followed by a very short reset. The ability to simply drop this into your gun and go to the range is huge. Also when you come home it’s simple to change out the Timney parts and then put in the factory Glock parts to make your gun a carry gun again. EDIT TO ADD: forgot to mention that the trigger also has a small set screw in the upper front face which is used to take up pre-travel if you wish to. But, you need to trim down the rear of the RED trigger safety tab to allow it to function properly. I did adjust it and trimmed the tab, but will continue to play with it when I have more time to experiment. | ||
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I scored a used Zev trigger Assy a few years back that I use in tandem with a Ghost 3.5 connector in a G3 G22C. Winning combo. Really enjoy that setup. ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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This guy is a competitor (sells glock triggers) and he really likes the innovation and safety of the Timney design. He got his down to 3 oz. with 100% safety (!!). https://youtu.be/BbQ4ERRKRQE https://youtu.be/3j2MyobLfec --------------------------- My hovercraft is full of eels. | |||
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I put one in my Gen 5 G19, and *for me* it absolutely obsoletes all the other Glock triggers I have tried through the years, and I have tried way more than a few. I would say it is very, very close to the Walther PPQ that I used to own. The way it comes, *for me* I would not want the break any lighter in a carry gun. For those that want a little heavier break, Johnny Glock offers his solution. https://johnnyglocks.com/produ...ombat-conversion-kitThis message has been edited. Last edited by: Biggy, | |||
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Sent them a question to see if it will work in the G40 10mm, it's not listed as compatible, | |||
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Left-Handed, NOT Left-Winged! |
The module insert appears to have it's own sear, so this turns a Glock into a fully pre-cocked striker instead of a partially cocked striker? If so, then it should feel a more like a PPQ. | |||
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I have a G45 and a G17G5 that's currently not doing much that I wouldn't mind trying this with. Thanks for the head's up. -MG | |||
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I have only seen one in person and while it is a good Glock trigger, it is still a Glock trigger with no improvement in character that I can tell. | |||
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I have a Timney trigger in a Gen 5 Glock with a Glock OEM Minus Connector and a 5# FPS and the 10 trigger pull average is 3# 5oz. which is 1oz.less than my Gen 5 Glock with a Johnny Glock Competition Trigger using a 4.5# FPS. I have adjusted the connector and the trigger bar is not dragging on the frame. The reset on the Timney is not as good as the reset on the JG. YMMV | |||
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Thanks for the review. "But, as luck would have it, he stood up. He caught that chunk of lead." Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock "If there's one thing this last week has taught me, it's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it." Clarence Worley | |||
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Yes, striker is fully cocked. The sear releases it. I installed a couple of these a few weeks ago, in Gen3 firearms. Trigger breaks at 3lbs 14oz to 4lbs 2oz in my guns, and I'm assuming it is the original trigger return spring as it's silver in color. I wouldn't call it crisp, not like my better 1911s or DA/SA Sigs, but it has much better feel than a factory Glock trigger. I find it comparable to my P320 X-series triggers. | |||
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I'll pass... For every pistol I've bought that was supposed to be an "improvement" over a factory stock Glock, I always end up with a deeper respect for the utter simplicity and elegance of the factory box stock Glock. A pre-cocked striker doesn't exactly give me warm fuzzies. Major manufacturers like Glock routinely perform destruction testing on their products. Proof loads, countless drops on hard surfaces, extreme temperature and environmental tests, and good old fashioned good engineering. Timmey is a well known trigger manufacturer, but I'm not sure how many Glocks they have tested or how rigorous their methods are. | |||
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I think this trigger could probably put most of the other aftermarket Glock trigger makers out of business. We shall see. | |||
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