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Originally posted by Grayguns:

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Originally posted by yanici:
I saw that new trigger video too. I'm curious if the trigger makes for a longer pull and if the reset is the same. Since I have small hands, I was also concerned on whether the trigger will sit further forward or not.

Does anyone think that the flat trigger sits further forward than the curved one as far as how you grip the gun and hold the trigger?

I have the same concerns with GRAYGUNS upgrade. I will be buying one or the other.

Hi! I can speak for our designs, since we originated them at great expense, and with great care for nuance and details.

Our PELT triggers are dimensioned to fit the great majority of FCU's optimally. That fit of axle to FCU is crucial to reliability, and to obtaining minimal possible pre-and-after travel. To get there, Grayguns holds our triggers to extremely close tolerances, at dimensions which fall within tbe high median range of factory tolerances for the surfaces and release points it must function in.

For that reason, about 3% of our customer's FCU's do not accept our standard trigger. For them,
we offer alternative/fit variants, backed by our dedicated CS Crew.

It would be easier and way cheaper to make a "small" trigger that fits every frame, but that necessarily comes at the expense of optimal trigger feel and net travel performance for a large percentage of our clients. Our experience and unparalleled knowledge of the P320 says a sloppy trigger won't work well enough, and certainly won't justify our lifetime guarantee.

The one thing that can't be imitated is that experience, which makes it all work the way we designed it to.

Thanks for letting me explain here.

-Bruce

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Originally posted by Roughneck6:
I'll give my impressions as I have had both Apex Triggers (original and the advanced) and the curved Gray Gun Pelt trigger. I own three M&Ps, to include the new M2.0. All have Apex triggers with FSS kits and are phenomenal! That said the new advanced flat Apex trigger did nothing for me. I could not tell much diffence from the first flat trigger to their advanced. It did bring back the felt sting, it added slop to the take up and nmade re-set just as bad. I took it out and replaced it with my factory trigger. The factory trigger in my hands is 100% better. The Gray Gun Pelt curved trigger did as advertised. Reduced the weight, zero take up and re-set short and crisp. It was so light, for me I had rounds going off early as I was used to the take up with the factory trigger. I need more trigger time with the Pelt, but I can highly recommend it. But, triggers I have found are very subjective, just my two cents.

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Originally posted by az4783054:
Wonder if they copied the GRAYGUNS design?

Too much professional respect for this to happen. I actually saw Randy Lee and Bruce Gray having a conversation at Shot I smiled to myself knowing that they were talking shop. They have worked together in the past and are most likely friends so there's not going to be any design infringements.

Our enhanced-leverage concept is described in our patent application, and we were not consulted.

It is what it is.

-Bruce