I just replaced the factory installed "short" trigger on my new M11-A1 with SIG's standard affair (TRG-22690-BLK). When firing first shot DA with the "short" trigger installed, I was loosing finger leverage before the hammer released. For me, the standard trigger completely eliminated this problem. I'm a bit surprised SIG elected to supply the "short" trigger with this model given the fact it was previously an optional accessory. I suspect a number of M11-A1 shooters - especially those with larger hands - have replaced their triggers as well. Attached is the obligatory photo of my new M11-A1 with the standard trigger installed.

The short trigger has always been standard on the M11-A1. A lot of folks, myself included, hated it and promptly swapped it for the old regular one like yours.

I was having the same problem so I shipped my M11-A1 off to Gerry Ritacco with Total Automation who developed the QTR System. It eliminates the SRT by modifying the hammer and replacing the sear with and original style Sig sear. Really a different pistol and a joy to shoot after the modification.

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Originally posted by 12131:
The short trigger has always been standard on the M11-A1.

Q - Do you know the reason for this? To my knowledge, all of the other P-Series SIG's were supplied with the standard reach trigger. Did the original military M11 specify the short trigger? Thanks!

Yes, the military M11 comes with the short trigger.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Yes, the military M11 comes with the short trigger.

Thanks Q - that clears that up. Somehow, I suspect the short trigger hinders more shooters than it helps.

Other than the Legions quite a few have that skinny trigger, Sig seem to think everyone likes it.
My 229 Select had one also, swapped it out before I shot it after getting one on the M11-A1.

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Originally posted by hjs157:

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Originally posted by 12131:
Yes, the military M11 comes with the short trigger.

Thanks Q - that clears that up. Somehow, I suspect the short trigger hinders more shooters than it helps.

It clearly does. But, here is an excellent article on the origin of the military M11, the reason for the short trigger...

https://blog.gritrsports.com/m...ttle-gun-that-could/

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Differing from SIG’s original 228 is the length of the M11 trigger. One of the specs called for a shooter wearing a gloved hand to fit and a wooden dowel was used to test this. Because the standard trigger was too long to fit the dowe,l a shorter trigger was substituted.

Interesting and timely thread because I’m about to buy a M11-A1 .

+1. I also did that to mine and have more control over the trigger this way. I then replace the short trigger to my P227 as well.

What trigger does the current P229 Elite come with ?

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Originally posted by Nick B:
What trigger does the current P229 Elite come with ?

Regular old trigger.

I guess I'm the minority. I love my short triggers.

I did this immediately with my M11-A1.

Funny....I'm just the opposite and change the fat triggers to the short. Now I change the shorts to the Gray Guns Straight one.

Interesting read, that article. The Army must regularly have folks with mongo fingers...or use mega thick gloves. I've done gloved outdoor winter shoots with my P-SIGs and while my fingers are hardly considered thick, I've not had any space problem with the regular standard P22x trigger bow. Reach-wise I'm also quite at peace with the standard trigger sans gloves, despite my small hands and short fingers. Every classic P-SIG that I've bought that originally came with a short trigger has been refitted with a solid standard trigger. Perceived trigger slap was/is my issue with the blessed ($%@#!!) short trigger.

I recently purchased an M11-A1. It was made in 2021 if that matters.

I took it to the range and... I hate the trigger!
I felt like I was squeezing... and squeezing... and the gun wouldn't fire. It made me unsteady as the muzzle was moving as my hand started quivering.

Recommendations?

The solution is already mentioned above, Matt. Swap in the regular old "fatty" trigger. The regular trigger eliminates that uncomfortable "pinch" or "slap" of the short/thin trigger, but, due to the different geometries, it also makes the pull easier.

OK, thanks, Q.
Where is the best place to purchase one?
Are they pretty easy to swap out?

ETA: Looks like I can order direct from Sig:
https://www.sigsauer.com/p220-...tandard-trigger.html

I did swap the grips...

Yep. I hate the short trigger. It takes away leverage, screws up the length of pull, and has a tendency to pinch the finger. My P220 Compact came with one and it got swapped out first thing. Like grips, YMMV and it probably works well for those with a particular hand size, but I definitely don't fall into that category.

You can get a regular trigger from Sig, MGW, Midway, etc. and it's maybe a 5 minute swap. The worst part is finagling the hammer end of the trigger bar in and out of the frame cutout while keeping the trigger end in the proper position.