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posted May 18, 2020 09:43 AMHide Post
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I'm also playing with a hydraulic guide rod -- still messing with it.
Ummm, so not a factory setup?
Was this before or after you had issues?

After. I don't suspect the guide rod or recoil spring with having much to do with the failure-to-extract. I put the blame there firmly on the extractor tension....combined possibly with specific magazines being out of spec w/the legion 229

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...and I probably should mention I don't have any 229 mags - only 226 mags.
So you acquired a "new-to-me 229 Legion", with no P229 magazines? Confused


Yes. Standard capacity magazines can't be transferred in CA, unless you're LEO. I am not. I am however old enough to have a lot of pre-ban (again, a CA thing) 226 mags. The reason I bought the 229 without mags is a) I don't care about carrying it with flush mags and b) I plan to use whichever of the 226 mags I already own that run consistently in the 229.

If the 9th Circus Court En Banc Review ever releases their decision in the Mag Ban case, maybe I can then order up some 229 flush fit 17's...


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posted May 18, 2020 10:10 AMHide Post
Too bad you missed out on freedom week where judge benitez temporarily reversed the magazine ban! Hopefully that will happen again for you.
 
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posted May 18, 2020 10:22 AMHide Post
Oh - I didn't miss out on Freedom Week, just ask my UPS driver. Great legs. I just wasn't planning on a 229 Legion back then.


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posted May 18, 2020 06:52 PMHide Post
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Oh - I didn't miss out on Freedom Week, just ask my UPS driver. Great legs. I just wasn't planning on a 229 Legion back then.


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Originally posted by monoblok:
I know of a couple of customers who had theirs' break as well as one on a buddy's P229 40S&W, but all that was several years ago. Have not had a reoccurrence of any of that since.


I have a 2015 229 chambered in .40 S&W. over 4000 rounds with 5 jammed, all reloads at the range. Never had a jam with new ammo. My issue with the long extractor is the need for a 3mm half round to take it off and then clear the way for removal of firing pin (for cleaning/inspection after 10 yrs).

While I would trust my live with that gun, I would much rather have my 226 ZEV.. wow what a factory trigger!
 
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posted April 15, 2025 09:59 PMHide Post
I have had several P226's with the long extractor and never had a hint of a problem.
I just purchased a used P229 "nitron rail" with the long extractor, and was getting about 1 failure to extract (followed by a double feed) every 50 rounds. I did some googling and found a report of issues with Winchester White Box, which I always use since I get it so cheap. So I went out and purchased about 600 rounds of various full metal jacket ammo (Federal, Blazer Brass and Aguila) and after two range sessions I did not have a single problem. I then loaded up some Winchester White Box and had a failure to extract in the first magazine, so hopefully that was the problem.
I really like the P229, its my favorite so far, I think I will have to start putting defensive rounds though it and see what happens, any more failures to extract and I may give up on the P229.
 
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I'm clear on the Necro thread, but since this was started I've acquired two long-extractor Sigs, a P226 and a P229. Both have been good to go, and while it's not because of the extractor specifically, I do prefer the newer style long-extractor slide on the P229 with the full-height serrations as it provides more grip surface for slide manipulation.
 
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posted April 16, 2025 05:51 PMHide Post
If the long external extractor was a problem, the internet would be littered with photos of broken parts.

That just simply doesn’t exist.




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posted April 17, 2025 07:59 AMHide Post
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If the long external extractor was a problem, the internet would be littered with photos of broken parts.

That just simply doesn’t exist.

And if it does break then replace it with a new one and drive on . The striker broke on my G17 Gen 4 at just over 8k rounds . I put a new one in and it’s back to going strong for the last 5k+ rounds .
 
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posted April 17, 2025 08:01 AMHide Post
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Originally posted by jljones:
If the long external extractor was a problem, the internet would be littered with photos of broken parts.

That just simply doesn’t exist.

And if it does break then replace it with a new extractor and drive on . The striker broke on my G17 Gen 4 at just over 8k rounds . I put a new one in and it’s back to going strong for the last 5k+ rounds .
 
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posted April 17, 2025 01:57 PMHide Post
I don’t like the long extractor aesthetically, but I have never had any functional problems with it. That said, I can only imagine cost savings as being the reason that SIG switched to it. I’ve never heard of any reliability problems with the old short extractor before.
 
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